[SergeyLisin]

i was out this past week and 4 asian guys were playing from the tips, its about 6800, i play from the whites 6400, needless to say not 1 of the 4 drove the ball anywhere near 250... made for a long day!!

they also had 250 left to a par 5, the group in fron tof them were still on the green, an dthey wait for the green to clear to hit their second shot, not one was even close to reaching in 2 ugh!!!!!

end rant, as this is the wrong thread lol