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**advabHixavoip** · 09-02-2011, 01:32 AM

I'll try and lay this out clearly. In my mens league 2 two men teams play each other.
One the first tee, 520 yd par 5, my teammate and I had the honor. We both hit our drives in the fairway as did the first player on the other team. The last guy to hit, hit his first drive hard left clearly out of bounds. There was no need to go look for it, because we all clearly saw it go into a woods staked OB and we all agreed it was OB.
He then hit his next drive (3rd shot) left through the fairway into tall heather not OB. Just in case, he went ahead and hit another ball (provisional) which followed nearly to same path left into the same patch of heather.
The four of us headed to the heather patch but after 10 minutes of searching, neither ball could be located.
At that point, the player returned to the tee and hit another ball, this time hitting the middle of the fairway.
While we waited on him to return, his partner than (standing alone) decleared that he had located the first ball hit in the heather. His teammate went over and said yes, that is my first ball.
At that point, I protested by saying the ball in the fairway is the ball in play. I said once we searched 10 minutes and no ball was found, and he returned to the tee, all other balls were out of the picture. His argument was that he simply returned to the tee to hit another provisional ball.
I said once we left the tee you could not hit or declare another ball as a provisional and that the last ball hit after he returned to the tee had to be the ball in play. Really upset the guy badly and he still won't speak to me to this day. Another argument was what he was laying if he played the ball in the FW.

1st shot clearly OB left (no question all agreed).
Next shot (3) left into the heather lost
Provisional while on the tee (5) left into the heather lost (then found later)
Back to the tee to hit another (7) in the fairway.

In the end he played both balls (laying 3 in the heather) of which he made a 7 on the hole and the other ball (laying 7 in the FW) he made a 12.

Spoiler In the end our pro after everything was layed out agreed that he could not return to the tee to hit another provisional ball and because we called off the search after the allowed 10 minutes, the last ball hit (7) was in fact the one in play and the 12 should stand.

The worse thing is that I played some with this guy in weekend skins and he has put me on the "pay no mind list" and will not even look my way. I feel bad, but should I?

09-02-2011, 01:32 AM	#1
advabHixavoip Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	Need a ruling. Was I right I'll try and lay this out clearly. In my mens league 2 two men teams play each other. One the first tee, 520 yd par 5, my teammate and I had the honor. We both hit our drives in the fairway as did the first player on the other team. The last guy to hit, hit his first drive hard left clearly out of bounds. There was no need to go look for it, because we all clearly saw it go into a woods staked OB and we all agreed it was OB. He then hit his next drive (3rd shot) left through the fairway into tall heather not OB. Just in case, he went ahead and hit another ball (provisional) which followed nearly to same path left into the same patch of heather. The four of us headed to the heather patch but after 10 minutes of searching, neither ball could be located. At that point, the player returned to the tee and hit another ball, this time hitting the middle of the fairway. While we waited on him to return, his partner than (standing alone) decleared that he had located the first ball hit in the heather. His teammate went over and said yes, that is my first ball. At that point, I protested by saying the ball in the fairway is the ball in play. I said once we searched 10 minutes and no ball was found, and he returned to the tee, all other balls were out of the picture. His argument was that he simply returned to the tee to hit another provisional ball. I said once we left the tee you could not hit or declare another ball as a provisional and that the last ball hit after he returned to the tee had to be the ball in play. Really upset the guy badly and he still won't speak to me to this day. Another argument was what he was laying if he played the ball in the FW. 1st shot clearly OB left (no question all agreed). Next shot (3) left into the heather lost Provisional while on the tee (5) left into the heather lost (then found later) Back to the tee to hit another (7) in the fairway. In the end he played both balls (laying 3 in the heather) of which he made a 7 on the hole and the other ball (laying 7 in the FW) he made a 12. Spoiler In the end our pro after everything was layed out agreed that he could not return to the tee to hit another provisional ball and because we called off the search after the allowed 10 minutes, the last ball hit (7) was in fact the one in play and the 12 should stand. The worse thing is that I played some with this guy in weekend skins and he has put me on the "pay no mind list" and will not even look my way. I feel bad, but should I?
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