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**derisgun** · 08-29-2012, 10:32 PM

I would agree that it's a perspective thing. Still, we would gladly let the Pakistani government handle this if it was capable of doing so, but they simply aren't.

Several things come to mind. First, Israel. The border disputes involved with them have occurred ever since 1948. That is a legacy of England's intervention. America didn't get that involved with Israel until much later down the road.

Second, the Crusades. There is a long history of conflict between the West and the Middle East. The USSR was also a factor for a while during the last century.

So, while our interventions have escalated certain situations, we're certainly not the originator of the chaos that seems to always be present in at least part of the Middle East and South Asia at any given time.

Also, Europeans drew up a lot of the borders that exist today.

It's not an accusation really. When I say US intervention I'm referring to the elite few who call the shots on whether or not to jeopardize the lives of millions for their own lust for money.

European and US elites combined have ruined the lives of millions, justifying it back home by whatever means they can.

As the conflict out there carries on, more people are becoming wise to these lies. I doubt you could find many individuals who believe that western intervention in the middle east is not based around the lucrative oil supply.

08-29-2012, 10:32 PM	#29
derisgun Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	I would agree that it's a perspective thing. Still, we would gladly let the Pakistani government handle this if it was capable of doing so, but they simply aren't. Several things come to mind. First, Israel. The border disputes involved with them have occurred ever since 1948. That is a legacy of England's intervention. America didn't get that involved with Israel until much later down the road. Second, the Crusades. There is a long history of conflict between the West and the Middle East. The USSR was also a factor for a while during the last century. So, while our interventions have escalated certain situations, we're certainly not the originator of the chaos that seems to always be present in at least part of the Middle East and South Asia at any given time. Also, Europeans drew up a lot of the borders that exist today. It's not an accusation really. When I say US intervention I'm referring to the elite few who call the shots on whether or not to jeopardize the lives of millions for their own lust for money. European and US elites combined have ruined the lives of millions, justifying it back home by whatever means they can. As the conflict out there carries on, more people are becoming wise to these lies. I doubt you could find many individuals who believe that western intervention in the middle east is not based around the lucrative oil supply.
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