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**SHpuntik** · 10-23-2009, 02:23 AM

Rapists and sexual offenders made the choice to destroy someone's life, so it is only fair to make theirs a living hell.

A. No it's not, unless you're happy being like them. If someone is a danger to you, you can kill them, isolate them, or escape them... but you cannot persecute them.
B. How do you know whether the person you're persecuting actually committed the crime? How many innocent people is it okay to destroy, in order to satisfy your sadistic urges? And how is that different from the people you claim to hate so much.
C. In the U.S., you can get a "sex offender" status for almost anything. You don't need to rape or otherwise sexually assault someone. Due to various statues, taking a piss in public can be counted as "indecent exposure" for instance, and get you the "offender" status. Hell, a significant number of young high school and junior high school students now have "offender" status for sending each other naked pictures of themselves, since they got arrested for "child pornography". So a guy that got piss drunk, and a guy that got a naked pic of his (then) 15-year old girlfriend are the people you want to persecute? Really?

Look... as a country we've got to stop trying to "do something" because it's not good for our mental health. Either we believe that prisons are a corrective punishment or we do not. If we don't think that a person that was convicted of crime X can safely re-enter the society, without committing the crime again, then we have to keep him locked up. If we do not, then it's our responsibility to leave him (or her) alone after they've served their time.

I am quite pissed off at the state of our affairs, when we virtually guarantee that anyone released from prison can't get educated and get a decent job ever again. What's the point then? If we're not going to give them an opportunity to be normal, we can't bitch about repeat offenders.

And yes, I am quite aware that there are MANY true repeat offenders, especially within the category of violent crime... and even more within the sub-division of sex crime. And that is terrifying.

That being said, this is still wrong. It's cruel, unusual, and diminishes the dignity of our own society. Coupled with the fact that we now cast these prejudices against an increasingly large and non-violent group of people, perhaps we should rethink our approach... if not to their punishment, then at least to their classification.

10-23-2009, 02:23 AM	#14
SHpuntik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 608 Senior Member	Rapists and sexual offenders made the choice to destroy someone's life, so it is only fair to make theirs a living hell. A. No it's not, unless you're happy being like them. If someone is a danger to you, you can kill them, isolate them, or escape them... but you cannot persecute them. B. How do you know whether the person you're persecuting actually committed the crime? How many innocent people is it okay to destroy, in order to satisfy your sadistic urges? And how is that different from the people you claim to hate so much. C. In the U.S., you can get a "sex offender" status for almost anything. You don't need to rape or otherwise sexually assault someone. Due to various statues, taking a piss in public can be counted as "indecent exposure" for instance, and get you the "offender" status. Hell, a significant number of young high school and junior high school students now have "offender" status for sending each other naked pictures of themselves, since they got arrested for "child pornography". So a guy that got piss drunk, and a guy that got a naked pic of his (then) 15-year old girlfriend are the people you want to persecute? Really? Look... as a country we've got to stop trying to "do something" because it's not good for our mental health. Either we believe that prisons are a corrective punishment or we do not. If we don't think that a person that was convicted of crime X can safely re-enter the society, without committing the crime again, then we have to keep him locked up. If we do not, then it's our responsibility to leave him (or her) alone after they've served their time. I am quite pissed off at the state of our affairs, when we virtually guarantee that anyone released from prison can't get educated and get a decent job ever again. What's the point then? If we're not going to give them an opportunity to be normal, we can't bitch about repeat offenders. And yes, I am quite aware that there are MANY true repeat offenders, especially within the category of violent crime... and even more within the sub-division of sex crime. And that is terrifying. That being said, this is still wrong. It's cruel, unusual, and diminishes the dignity of our own society. Coupled with the fact that we now cast these prejudices against an increasingly large and non-violent group of people, perhaps we should rethink our approach... if not to their punishment, then at least to their classification.
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