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**LoloLibia** · 12-29-2011, 04:22 AM

Oh, and as for tasarruf al-awrah, here's something from Ibn al-Qayyim: http://cb.rayaheen.net/showthread.php?tid=34993

If it's shirk, Ibn al-Qayyim is the first mushrik.

The quoted part from Kitab al-Ruh is totally irrelevant for the shirki belief of the Barelwis surrounding absolute tasarruf al-umur. The text mentions only that the souls of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) and his 2 companions defeated a whole army.

From where you get the hint from that portion about establishing tasarruf al-umur beats me. Also, tasarruf is not even the case. Ml. Zakariyya talked about in Aap Biti as did others. This is the tasarruf we talk about, as explained by Amjad Ali in his Bahare Shari'at:

6.Amjad ‘Ali A’zimi, the deputy (khalifah) of Ahmad Rada Khan Barelwi, writes in Bahar-i-Shari‘ah (p.1: 30-31), a book of fiqh for the general public, “Our Master, the Prophet (may Allah bless him and give him peace), is the absolute deputy of Allah Most High. He has been given control (tassaruf) over the entire universe. He may do as he desires, give to whomsoever he wishes, take from anyone whatever he desires. None in the universe can deny his rulings. The entire universe is under his governance and he is under the authority of none except Allah. He is the owner (malik) of all humans. Anyone who does not accept him to be his owner (malik) remains devoid of the sweetness of the Sunnah. All the earth is his property. Paradise is his estate. The angels of earth and the sky are under his authority. The keys to paradise and hell have been given to him in his noble hand. Sustenance, goodness and other types of blessings are distributed from his noble office. This world and the hereafter is a portion of his blessings. The rulings of Shari‘ah have been delegated to his authority. He may make impermissible (haram) for anyone whatever he decides. Similarly, he may make permissible (halal) whatever he wishes and exempt whatever obligation (fard) he desires.”

THAT is the tasarruf we are talking about it. If you can establish this for anyone, then we have no hesitation in branding such a person as a mushrik.

12-29-2011, 04:22 AM	#12
LoloLibia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 497 Senior Member	Oh, and as for tasarruf al-awrah, here's something from Ibn al-Qayyim: http://cb.rayaheen.net/showthread.php?tid=34993 If it's shirk, Ibn al-Qayyim is the first mushrik. The quoted part from Kitab al-Ruh is totally irrelevant for the shirki belief of the Barelwis surrounding absolute tasarruf al-umur. The text mentions only that the souls of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) and his 2 companions defeated a whole army. From where you get the hint from that portion about establishing tasarruf al-umur beats me. Also, tasarruf is not even the case. Ml. Zakariyya talked about in Aap Biti as did others. This is the tasarruf we talk about, as explained by Amjad Ali in his Bahare Shari'at: 6.Amjad ‘Ali A’zimi, the deputy (khalifah) of Ahmad Rada Khan Barelwi, writes in Bahar-i-Shari‘ah (p.1: 30-31), a book of fiqh for the general public, “Our Master, the Prophet (may Allah bless him and give him peace), is the absolute deputy of Allah Most High. He has been given control (tassaruf) over the entire universe. He may do as he desires, give to whomsoever he wishes, take from anyone whatever he desires. None in the universe can deny his rulings. The entire universe is under his governance and he is under the authority of none except Allah. He is the owner (malik) of all humans. Anyone who does not accept him to be his owner (malik) remains devoid of the sweetness of the Sunnah. All the earth is his property. Paradise is his estate. The angels of earth and the sky are under his authority. The keys to paradise and hell have been given to him in his noble hand. Sustenance, goodness and other types of blessings are distributed from his noble office. This world and the hereafter is a portion of his blessings. The rulings of Shari‘ah have been delegated to his authority. He may make impermissible (haram) for anyone whatever he decides. Similarly, he may make permissible (halal) whatever he wishes and exempt whatever obligation (fard) he desires.” THAT is the tasarruf we are talking about it. If you can establish this for anyone, then we have no hesitation in branding such a person as a mushrik.
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