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**Cengaeas** · 05-04-2011, 06:49 PM

And regarding the hadith you mentioned, it is only talking about KHALIFAS who rule by Sharia. Now there is no khalifa so it doesnt really count. The hadith was talking about the likes of Muawiya and other leaders (who came after the first Four Rightly Guided Caliphs) who may have done some bad things but still were the rulers of the Muslim world and ruled by Sharia.

How do you know who the hadith is talking about? And what does this part of the hadith mean:

"and to be obedient to the ruler and give him his right even if he did not give us our right"

What's the purpose of mentioning this if a ruler is ruling by what Allah has revealed? Is it possible for a ruler to rule by what Allah has revealed and at the same time not give us our rights???

05-04-2011, 06:49 PM	#14
Cengaeas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 344 Senior Member	And regarding the hadith you mentioned, it is only talking about KHALIFAS who rule by Sharia. Now there is no khalifa so it doesnt really count. The hadith was talking about the likes of Muawiya and other leaders (who came after the first Four Rightly Guided Caliphs) who may have done some bad things but still were the rulers of the Muslim world and ruled by Sharia. How do you know who the hadith is talking about? And what does this part of the hadith mean: "and to be obedient to the ruler and give him his right even if he did not give us our right" What's the purpose of mentioning this if a ruler is ruling by what Allah has revealed? Is it possible for a ruler to rule by what Allah has revealed and at the same time not give us our rights???
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