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Old 02-06-2011, 10:56 PM   #19
HilaryNidierer

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my query is simple I have been calling you -- stephane2 , did you hear me and you are alive my argument is first let us discuss about living beings who cannot hear before addressing the dead. Please explain this ( also if you find some nass qati that would help )
Assalam aleykoum my brother Abul Hussain,


I am hearing you do not worry

2) Ok lets talk about alive people, as you said who can not hear.


They can not hear what ? its not about the voice its about the words of Allah SWT, I mean the truth not wrong interpretations or lies spread after the death of our prophete Mohamed SWS.

Muslims they think that all the verses in the quran is not talking about them when Allah SWT is talking about disbeleiver, people in hell, people corrupted ............

When I see muslims talking and their way of thinking its like they are the best of the world and they will all go to the paradise ( JANA ) and they have nothing to fear.

Its like they can not make mistakes in their beleif, and the devil ( CHYTANE ) is very weak and is not enough clever for muslims, its very funny and sad in same time.

Lets back to the thread : I bring a verse of the Quran Al karim, is it forbideen ?

English Yusuf Ali: [2:171]
The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one were to shout Like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom.

Brother we are all concerned by the verse above, if we do not care about Allah SWt speech we are disbeleiver its like we reject the faith, but its hard to notice it, its very hard to be always in the right path, we have always to look for for the truth..


2) Let's back to the dead :


English Yusuf Ali: [21:17]
If it had been Our wish to take (just) a pastime, We should surely have taken it from the things nearest to Us, if We would do (such a thing)!

English Yusuf Ali: [21:18]
Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us).

English Yusuf Ali: [21:19]
To Him belong all (creatures) in the heavens and on earth: Even those who are in His (very) Presence are not too proud to serve Him, nor are they (ever) weary (of His service):

English Yusuf Ali: [21:20]
They celebrate His praises night and day, nor do they ever flag or intermit.


Now brother Allah SWT never said the dead can hear, now tell me how a dead can hear.

If a dead can hear then he is alive ?

If is alive Allah SWT will not rise from a death an alive personn no ?



Open wide your eyes and read the verse bellow :

[21:21]
Or have they taken (for worship) gods from the earth who can raise (the dead)?


Its for that I am telling you sisters and brothers that you are in big danger because you beleive to somenthing that Allah SWT never mentioned.

What is hard for you its to think one minute and say to yourself maybe the hadith is false and the prophete Mohamed SWt never told it.

But you are condionned for centuries its not your fault its the fault of tyrans after the death of our prophete Mohamed SWS the same dictators we have in arabic countries.



I ask Allah SWT to guide us and to forgive us all , amin.
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