[CesseOveldset]

I'm not going to bother with addressing everything as you and I are on different pages. Any way, I'm not familiar with the quotation system here either. http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/foru...tpost&p=573805

What we do both want, is the best for our country. We both see the massive corruption, and I don't see how you mean to change any of it. Term limits, and gerrymandering were not the solution, just the (beginning) down a long hard road, that may not happen for a very long time. This country is too comfortable in their despotism.

When I mentioned a present day president's power now being impotent, I meant the man, and then explained how the power of the presidency, is in fact supreme, and (used). Why would you think I thought any any different? I thought I made myself quite clear. You seem to agree, after reading your comments towards the end of your response.

For what we, and many other's do here on the net. I don't like to call this arguing, just discussing.

You have told me, that you don't post without researching, and knowing full well what you are saying. Ever read, "War is a Racket"? We can always learn more, and never know it all. Even when we think we know a lot, we don't know shit.

As for the current war, and all wars waged for bullshit reasons. There is no hyperbole in my statements in the last post. I am very blunt, and lack tact or loquacity. This is a great book, check it out when you have the time. It's common sense, and we are ignoring it.
http://www.booklore.co.uk/PastReview...cketReview.htm

Even the Afghani opium business is was taken for international banking cartels, and the entire (Global market) by the U.S. government. When the taliban heard the U.S. government was going to invade, they started destroying all the heroin. It took over 200 billion out of the Global Market. It was called, economic warfare against the U.S.. Do you think soldiers know they are dieing to line pocket's? I don't think so.

As for the UN being a lapdog to the U.S., that is completely wrong. Do you remember that soldier in Macedonia. He was an American soldier who refused to wear the beret, and patch? Do you remember what they did to him? U.S. courts would not touch his appeal. If the U.S. was indeed, the alpha dog, that soldier would still be in the U.S. military. You need to do some research on the UN, and not mainstream research as you will get nowhere with that.

You seem to think an Empire can exist when all people are being represented. Imperia cannot exist without imperialism. People seem to dismiss this rather often, and I don't know why. It's impossible to have one without the other. Therefore, a free independent thinking people would never condone the stealing of another's territory, murder, and resources. It's never sold as that though, just spreading freedom, protecting the homeland, and peace. They are all lies.

The fact that the supreme court, is in fact a political institution, is a horror, and a travesty. They were only there to say two things. Constitutional, or Un Constitutional, period.The fact that they are there for life , and are appointed in a dictatorial fashion is preposterous. Them being the last law of the land, in an age of activist witch hunts, shows that our country is in for a hard time. I can't see how you think it prudent, or even natural.

You also seem to think a free market, is about "widget's". That's absurd. Without a free market, there cannot be any freedom, period. There is no hyperbole in anything I have said. That word is used way too often in the wrong circumstances. Just as conspiracy, and tinfoil are used. I don't mince words, and will never do so.

There are three main economic systems. I prefer a free market.

Civil remedies can take over many government programs, and run them much more effectively. There isn't one thing in our history, that hasn't been handled better, and more successfully in the private sector. Even logistics for the government, are done by civilian private contractors. Hell, our entire military industrial congressional complex, is run by the big capital private sector, and their interests.

I'm going to talk about all three main economic systems, in a very simple way. Many think communism, and socialism are inherently evil. That is relative, and what one thinks is evil, an (entire society) might think grand. If an entire society wants to live their live's a certain way, who am I or anyone else to question that? It is wholly collectivist, and that is their business.

If an entire society want's to commune with one another, and share their capital, it's on them. This is what banks do with the citizenry's capital in the U.S., and around the world. FDR is the one who first said banking cartels have owned America, since the days of Andrew Jackson. No one is blaming anyone. I don't happen to like the way banks use the citizens money in a selfish socialist fashion, and think all people in America should take their money out of every bank in this nation. That would sure get this traitorous government's attention. You want to make a difference in America? That's what I'm talking about Michael.

Now as for an entire society existing in a collectivist manner under communism, and socialism, that is not to say it is evil, just something I would not want for my country. Our government has made the U.S. wholly collectivist. Our (government), not the entirety of the citizenry. That's where the problem lies. Then, it's not an entire societies decision, and only it's (planners) of said society. If they are kept pure and the economy is kept out of the hands of government, then they can work on their own merits.

These exist no where, and never have in our entire history. Closest we came to pure capitalism, was when America had a "free market". The other two, never.

1) Pure Communism, is the (public) ownership of capital. That's (everyone), and all people in that country.

2) Pure Socialism, is (worker) ownership, and control of production, very similar to communism as it's collectivist.

3) Pure Capitalism, is (private/individual) ownership of capital.

Now when you look at all those, they work for their particular society.

Now add a Government that is now allowed to take control of every single one of those pure systems, and you will see why government cannot have anything to do with our economy Michael, in any of those systems.

What (kills) all these systems, is the (Nationalization) of them. National Socialism, National Communism, and National Capitalism. The Nationalization of any of these systems, breeds despotism. Just as the Nationalization of Globalization has done. Globalization is inevitable, and it is in the hands of our planners, not the citizenry.

All Governments have their place, and that place is protection of it's people. Otherwise, they are nothing, only onerous. They have now abused that right to protect us as they have become the enemy. Their is no hyperbole there. No Government has any place in a societies economy. The people then become the slaves, and allow government to live off of every single person from that moment forward. Just like worker ants. It is a grand delusion to allow any government to take over a (free) societies economy. (We need capital to LIVE) Michael, not "widget's" Free life. Once any government takes that power out of a free societies hands, you are no longer free Michael.

I choose a free society, as do you I'm sure, and that can only be found in a free market. We once had a free market in America, and our government stole it. That is something all governments (can) do if you let them, and that is when it's not pure, and it's not natural. That is when, all those systems are evil not just the "red scare", and socialists.

Mixed capitalism is a lie, and it is no longer capitalism at that point. I mentioned the SS thread, because it's (all) related. Do you like your government laundering your capital? I don't.