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**downtowndude** · 12-06-2005, 04:46 AM

Which is another thing that needs to be fixed, and hopefully term limits would help make that change happen sooner.

Okay, that's the first reasonable argument I've heard against. Term limits as worded in my earlier post still allow for that stability, and/or for congressmen to cycle back and forth to/from senator if they find the limiting factor too onerous.

The only effective way to limit the role of money in government is to limit the power of the government. So long as a powerful entity can invest thousands of dollars to lobby for favorable tax or regulation policies that will save them millions, they will always find a way around any finance rules that can be devised.

That's even more doomed than 'limiting the money'. The shorter the campaign, the more important mere name recognition becomes, the less time is available to rebut any slanderous ads, the bigger the role of 'damage control' (ie it's a lot easier to hide your pecadillos for weeks than for months), and the less time there is to develop, compare, and/or analyze actual positions on issues.

Also gerrymandering, and maybe even an IRV, or some derivative. Anything to allow for (real) meaningful choice in the land of the free to do what you're told.

Term limits are only to remove the (lifestyle) that congress has manufactured for themselves. I want people in there who are true working class citizens, who know they are only going to be there for so long. I want them to work as hard as they can to make this country a better place. I'm sick of the 99% incumbency rate, and lavish lifestyle we support them with. It must end.

I want government removed from our economy completely. As it stands now the FED, controls all the capital in the U.S.. A monopoly on capital is not capitalism, it's closer to Nationalized communism. When lawyers in Washington are getting paid to (talk) by the hour, how does anyone expect representation to mean a damn in Washington? I see no need for lobbyists at all. Remove the government from our economy, and wholly cut them off from making policy in the private sector. There will be no need for legal extortion, and bribes any longer.

I don't feel an add should air unless it's straight from the horses mouth. If the potential candidate is not speaking, I don't want to hear it. I don't think any presidential commercials should air unless the potential candidate is in them. Slander adds must stop as they have made our election process a massive lucrative circus every 4 years. also equal representation of every candidate is a must, and none are allowed any more air time then another. I feel the campaign funds should be completely equal. I also feel that from the stump speeches are really all that should air on TV/radio. Anything else, is propaganda, and I will have no part of it.

By the way, I liked your responses Evil_inKarlate.

12-06-2005, 04:46 AM	#31
downtowndude Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 452 Senior Member	Which is another thing that needs to be fixed, and hopefully term limits would help make that change happen sooner. Okay, that's the first reasonable argument I've heard against. Term limits as worded in my earlier post still allow for that stability, and/or for congressmen to cycle back and forth to/from senator if they find the limiting factor too onerous. The only effective way to limit the role of money in government is to limit the power of the government. So long as a powerful entity can invest thousands of dollars to lobby for favorable tax or regulation policies that will save them millions, they will always find a way around any finance rules that can be devised. That's even more doomed than 'limiting the money'. The shorter the campaign, the more important mere name recognition becomes, the less time is available to rebut any slanderous ads, the bigger the role of 'damage control' (ie it's a lot easier to hide your pecadillos for weeks than for months), and the less time there is to develop, compare, and/or analyze actual positions on issues. Also gerrymandering, and maybe even an IRV, or some derivative. Anything to allow for (real) meaningful choice in the land of the free to do what you're told. Term limits are only to remove the (lifestyle) that congress has manufactured for themselves. I want people in there who are true working class citizens, who know they are only going to be there for so long. I want them to work as hard as they can to make this country a better place. I'm sick of the 99% incumbency rate, and lavish lifestyle we support them with. It must end. I want government removed from our economy completely. As it stands now the FED, controls all the capital in the U.S.. A monopoly on capital is not capitalism, it's closer to Nationalized communism. When lawyers in Washington are getting paid to (talk) by the hour, how does anyone expect representation to mean a damn in Washington? I see no need for lobbyists at all. Remove the government from our economy, and wholly cut them off from making policy in the private sector. There will be no need for legal extortion, and bribes any longer. I don't feel an add should air unless it's straight from the horses mouth. If the potential candidate is not speaking, I don't want to hear it. I don't think any presidential commercials should air unless the potential candidate is in them. Slander adds must stop as they have made our election process a massive lucrative circus every 4 years. also equal representation of every candidate is a must, and none are allowed any more air time then another. I feel the campaign funds should be completely equal. I also feel that from the stump speeches are really all that should air on TV/radio. Anything else, is propaganda, and I will have no part of it. By the way, I liked your responses Evil_inKarlate.
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