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Old 11-02-2005, 06:56 PM   #9
Qwjyrgij

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Most of them want work just like everyone else. It's just that we made the large legal immigration patterns illegal for economic reasons. And the illegal trafficking became big business and brings in alot of undesireable elements too like criminals.

Alot of Americans cannot afford health insurance given the skyrocketing costs of those already not paying for it because they can't afford it. It is a slippery slope where the burden falls back on others to bear the costs at dam-breaking levels, and the dam breaks more everyday. Hospitals ger screwed with nonpayments and people are going bankrupt over medical bills at an alarming rate.

Insurance wins, though, because there is no national health care despite every other first world country having it and they always pass the costs on to those who still can pay them. And that is why they are such big lobbyists with whores in office at their beckon call.

That's part of it.

The insurance lobby is also a big reason.

And another big one is that illegals serve as the new semi-slave labour force.

In the past, people could hire a 12 year old legal immigrant Polish kid to mine coal and blast iron for 14 hours a day for a dollar. Labour unions and fair labour laws enacted by legal working class voters comprised of working native Americans and legal immigrants who became citizens stopped that. So, to stop that in turn, the always incoming stream of labour was made illegal so they have a barrier to organising like legal immigrants did with other working Americans before them.

I would not say Bush can't do a thing--he does not want to do so. When I go to the nearby Drexelbrook club for the annual Republican convention with my Rep brother and alot of my Rep friends (they don't care if Dems like me attend, lol, because I am a businessman and it is a local thing) I find my answer when I see all the nouveau riche businessmen there who became wealthy from scratch with construction, restaurant, cleaning companies, etc., that used under-the-table immigrant labour to make their wealth. That is what I see is the real story--looking to get rich Gordon Gekko-style without regard to the law and who else gets screwed in the process of evading it.

The sad part is that we need alot of legal immigration quick to start paying taxes for the upcoming Baby Boomer generation who will flood down the health care system. With 40% of the legal population being over 55 years old in the next few years, we need new taxpayer blood as fast as possible.
On Bush, what you said was my point exactly...he isn't going to do shit about it.

On taxpayer blood, also my point exactly..........you can't admit an additional 1.1 million people annually, provide them with heathcare and services without an increased tax base. Simple math makes that case for that one!
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