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**stadiaKab** · 10-17-2005, 02:57 PM

Umm, nice try, but......the locals weren't without blame. But, Bush served up a FAILED ED of a horse show to HEAD FEMA. It was colosal diaraha blast into the pants. If you are going to try to deny it, explain why Brown was sent packing. That, and the neocons raced to hooking up their buddies first and foremost instead of feeding and rescuing the victims. It's the same, old tired story with these neocons

Again, you're so busy with your Bush bashing and "neocon" crap that you fail to see the real problem. YOU CANNOT SEND FEMA WORKERS, VOLUNTEERS, ETC., INTO AN UNSTABLE AREA!!!!! New Orleans was in a state of mayhem after the flooding began. Crime was rampant with criminals shooting at police, military helicopters, etc., looters were everywhere and many of the police had fled New Orleans. To send FEMA or the Red Cross in would have been foolish because they would have been placed in danger, not only from rising water but also from criminals. Had Mayor Nagin called for a mandatory evac earlier, most of the citizens would have been somewhere else and NOT in danger of flooding. That's where the problem began.
Nagin should have had the foresight to supply the Superdome with food and water because even though it's not an official evacuation site, past experience shows that that's where the people end up. He failed to do so and this created hardships that could have been avoided.
The La. NG eventually secured New Orleans but there was still the element of rising waters. You can't send in your supplies if they're in danger and being destroyed. I do think that FEMA should have coordinated with the military to drop supplies at the Superdome by helicopter as soon as it was safe to do so and I'm still unclear as to why they didn't. But then again, they didn't bring supplies into my flooded city right away, either.
The flood waters didn't start receding until three days (Thurs.) after the storm had passed. On Friday, there were 50 trucks filled with food and water in New Orleans.
People in Louisiana are told to always have enough personal food and water to last at least three days during the hurricane season and they failed to do so. Had they done so, they wouldn't have missed a meal but rather than take personal responsibility, they would rather blame the government for not supplying them with essentials.
Another factor in getting emergency help into the area after the storm is the fact that bridges were destroyed, roads were blocked with fallen trees and electrical wires, etc. All of this has to be cleared before trucks can roll but for some reason, people think it gets cleared by little elfs or something. It doesn't. It takes a lot of manpower and the NG from other states played a major effort in this. In areas like mine, people cleared the roads themselves with chainsaws, trucks, tractors, etc. in many cases just because that's what we do. We don't sit around and wait for the government to rescue us, we help ourselves and also welcome any help from the outside. That's exactly why you haven't heard much about our area.
FEMA has been very slow in getting trailers to flood victims in Slidell and our Parish President Kevin Davis has threatened to get citizens with trucks to go pick the trailers up ourselves. He also recently threatened to sever all ties with FEMA if they didn't start moving.
As for the good ol' boy network, I'm use to it. That's been the way of Louisiana politics for decades, however, it really hasn't been bad during this disaster, I'm happy to say.

10-17-2005, 02:57 PM	#15
stadiaKab Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	Umm, nice try, but......the locals weren't without blame. But, Bush served up a FAILED ED of a horse show to HEAD FEMA. It was colosal diaraha blast into the pants. If you are going to try to deny it, explain why Brown was sent packing. That, and the neocons raced to hooking up their buddies first and foremost instead of feeding and rescuing the victims. It's the same, old tired story with these neocons Again, you're so busy with your Bush bashing and "neocon" crap that you fail to see the real problem. YOU CANNOT SEND FEMA WORKERS, VOLUNTEERS, ETC., INTO AN UNSTABLE AREA!!!!! New Orleans was in a state of mayhem after the flooding began. Crime was rampant with criminals shooting at police, military helicopters, etc., looters were everywhere and many of the police had fled New Orleans. To send FEMA or the Red Cross in would have been foolish because they would have been placed in danger, not only from rising water but also from criminals. Had Mayor Nagin called for a mandatory evac earlier, most of the citizens would have been somewhere else and NOT in danger of flooding. That's where the problem began. Nagin should have had the foresight to supply the Superdome with food and water because even though it's not an official evacuation site, past experience shows that that's where the people end up. He failed to do so and this created hardships that could have been avoided. The La. NG eventually secured New Orleans but there was still the element of rising waters. You can't send in your supplies if they're in danger and being destroyed. I do think that FEMA should have coordinated with the military to drop supplies at the Superdome by helicopter as soon as it was safe to do so and I'm still unclear as to why they didn't. But then again, they didn't bring supplies into my flooded city right away, either. The flood waters didn't start receding until three days (Thurs.) after the storm had passed. On Friday, there were 50 trucks filled with food and water in New Orleans. People in Louisiana are told to always have enough personal food and water to last at least three days during the hurricane season and they failed to do so. Had they done so, they wouldn't have missed a meal but rather than take personal responsibility, they would rather blame the government for not supplying them with essentials. Another factor in getting emergency help into the area after the storm is the fact that bridges were destroyed, roads were blocked with fallen trees and electrical wires, etc. All of this has to be cleared before trucks can roll but for some reason, people think it gets cleared by little elfs or something. It doesn't. It takes a lot of manpower and the NG from other states played a major effort in this. In areas like mine, people cleared the roads themselves with chainsaws, trucks, tractors, etc. in many cases just because that's what we do. We don't sit around and wait for the government to rescue us, we help ourselves and also welcome any help from the outside. That's exactly why you haven't heard much about our area. FEMA has been very slow in getting trailers to flood victims in Slidell and our Parish President Kevin Davis has threatened to get citizens with trucks to go pick the trailers up ourselves. He also recently threatened to sever all ties with FEMA if they didn't start moving. As for the good ol' boy network, I'm use to it. That's been the way of Louisiana politics for decades, however, it really hasn't been bad during this disaster, I'm happy to say.
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