Oh, so i was lied to when we were told they were in Afghanistan? Ok, I see your logic now, or lack there of. And yes, Iraq had WMD's, it has been proven that they were moved to Syria. How many times do I have to say it, there have been numerous attacks prevented since we started defending ourselves. The elections have never been shaky here. The 2000 election was close, but not shaky in the least bit, the 2004 election was very decisive, how does that constitute being shaky? You should go on and keep believing everything you're spoon-fed by the news media all across the world, funny, they never report wll the good things that are happening in Iraq. I know you're going to tell me that there are no good things happening, but it's been well documented by numerous reliable sources the good things that are happening. So I'll tell you why you never hear of the good things, it's because the good things that are taking place in Iraq would trump the bad things that are being reported, and since many such as yourself are invested in the defeat of the U.S. all you want to hear is doom and gloom. I'm done with this thread because it's going nowhere. Todd