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**BPitt** · 01-16-2006, 07:22 PM

Le Pen is IMHO no conservative. He is a racist and fascist with some conservative views.

Does the exageration of conservativism really means hating minorities and persecute them? Just curious.

My I remind you, Hitler was not really a conservative. The term "Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei Deutschlands" was not a pure whole phrase, you know. Do you know the "Kraft durch Freude" programme? The fight against unployment was a focus in Hitlers pre war propaganda.
Xenophoby, Genocide etc, do not really have to be based on conservativism.

PS: Please dont get me wrong. I am not trying to find sommthing good in the 3rd Reich. In principal all the stuff was only fascade, only the side effects of aramament. But I somehow wanted to bring in this view.

I agree wholeheartedly that Le Pen is most definitely utra racist, from what I have read. However, the US newspapers tend to lump him with ultra conservatives, like the John Birch Society, but not quite to the Aryan Nation political dogma. But to answer your question, in the US, if you are conservative, there is sometimes an automatic association between conservativism and racism, specifically programs that are being cut because of lack of need. One instance that comes to mind was the EITC recertification program that was started 2 years ago. It was forcifully argued that such a program, started by a conservative administration, was being racist and bigoted while not arguing the merits of the program. I can cite other examples if you like.

Relating specifically to the article, I find it extremely yellow journalistic to make a political assumption to a relationship between 2 political leaders. More specifically, the article seems to give only a single side point of reference to a political doctrine that is more complicated than the author gives credit. This is why I find the article amuzing, not serious.

01-16-2006, 07:22 PM	#13
BPitt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 518 Senior Member	Le Pen is IMHO no conservative. He is a racist and fascist with some conservative views. Does the exageration of conservativism really means hating minorities and persecute them? Just curious. My I remind you, Hitler was not really a conservative. The term "Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei Deutschlands" was not a pure whole phrase, you know. Do you know the "Kraft durch Freude" programme? The fight against unployment was a focus in Hitlers pre war propaganda. Xenophoby, Genocide etc, do not really have to be based on conservativism. PS: Please dont get me wrong. I am not trying to find sommthing good in the 3rd Reich. In principal all the stuff was only fascade, only the side effects of aramament. But I somehow wanted to bring in this view. I agree wholeheartedly that Le Pen is most definitely utra racist, from what I have read. However, the US newspapers tend to lump him with ultra conservatives, like the John Birch Society, but not quite to the Aryan Nation political dogma. But to answer your question, in the US, if you are conservative, there is sometimes an automatic association between conservativism and racism, specifically programs that are being cut because of lack of need. One instance that comes to mind was the EITC recertification program that was started 2 years ago. It was forcifully argued that such a program, started by a conservative administration, was being racist and bigoted while not arguing the merits of the program. I can cite other examples if you like. Relating specifically to the article, I find it extremely yellow journalistic to make a political assumption to a relationship between 2 political leaders. More specifically, the article seems to give only a single side point of reference to a political doctrine that is more complicated than the author gives credit. This is why I find the article amuzing, not serious.
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