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**BEKREUNSEPBERw** · 02-05-2006, 02:35 PM

I don't know why Americans aren't more pissed off with their gov't about how intrusive it has become in your lives. The guy who was planning to blow up the Israeli airline site at LAX in 2000 was suspected, then he was followed, and the RCMP and the FBI caught him red-handed at the border. That was done within the law, and catching the 9/11 guys could've been done within the law too. I just can't accept the argument that, "Aw shucks, if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't have anything to worry about". That is such a weak argument, and if Liberals in the USA were wanting that and they were in power, can you imagine what Republicans would say about it? They would call the party in power red-commie-fascist pigs, which is exactly what the cretins in this gov't are proving to everyone. And if you still agree with the president on this one, then you've clearly abandoned the principles in your flag in favor of a man.

Excellent point! That's the truth of the matter. And it shows that the rationale provided the public for the Patriot act is BS.

What's the difference between the Patriot Act and the Enabling Act? Damn little, as far as I can see, which shows how little we've learned. If we were serious about preventing the sort of atrocities committed by the Nazis then the hairs on the back of our necks would stand up at the mere hint of something like the Patriot Act. Instead, we act like sheep, for the most part.

02-05-2006, 02:35 PM	#15
BEKREUNSEPBERw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 388 Senior Member	I don't know why Americans aren't more pissed off with their gov't about how intrusive it has become in your lives. The guy who was planning to blow up the Israeli airline site at LAX in 2000 was suspected, then he was followed, and the RCMP and the FBI caught him red-handed at the border. That was done within the law, and catching the 9/11 guys could've been done within the law too. I just can't accept the argument that, "Aw shucks, if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't have anything to worry about". That is such a weak argument, and if Liberals in the USA were wanting that and they were in power, can you imagine what Republicans would say about it? They would call the party in power red-commie-fascist pigs, which is exactly what the cretins in this gov't are proving to everyone. And if you still agree with the president on this one, then you've clearly abandoned the principles in your flag in favor of a man. Excellent point! That's the truth of the matter. And it shows that the rationale provided the public for the Patriot act is BS. What's the difference between the Patriot Act and the Enabling Act? Damn little, as far as I can see, which shows how little we've learned. If we were serious about preventing the sort of atrocities committed by the Nazis then the hairs on the back of our necks would stand up at the mere hint of something like the Patriot Act. Instead, we act like sheep, for the most part.
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