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**Nubtoubrem** · 02-06-2006, 02:31 PM

I love the argument, that if you have nothing to hide, then you shouldnt mind if the government monitors your phone calls and emails without any type of court approval. No checks and balances necessary. What great freedoms we have.

But I have an idea. As long as we are allowing bush to gut the constitution, and abolish the 4th amendment, we should let the IRS go ahead and monitor republicans financial info. Why dont we let the IRS monitor corporations? Every nickel in and out, the IRS could keep records.

The IRS could monitor their bank records, and keep detailed information on their spending. They could keep detailed info on their earnings. Basically we should tell the IRS to monitor every cent corporations and the wealthy earn and spend.

Remember republicans, if you dont have anything to hide, then what is the problem letting the IRS monitor you at every turn. If you have a problem with them monitoring you, then you must have something to hide, which is all the more reason to monitor you.

Those who sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither.

Perhaps if you were to post some facts, we could discuss this rationally. First, you dont know anything about the NSA program. Second, there has been no legal challenge to the program. Third, there has been detailed legal explanations of the program from the CRS and the Attorney General, which includes court rulings in the Presidents favor, and congressional oversight. Given all that you have no factual basis your your explanation that anything wrong is being done. Rather you are attempting to prohibit the President from protecting the country in a way that he deems neccesary, all for the sake of partisanship.

02-06-2006, 02:31 PM	#19
Nubtoubrem Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 424 Senior Member	I love the argument, that if you have nothing to hide, then you shouldnt mind if the government monitors your phone calls and emails without any type of court approval. No checks and balances necessary. What great freedoms we have. But I have an idea. As long as we are allowing bush to gut the constitution, and abolish the 4th amendment, we should let the IRS go ahead and monitor republicans financial info. Why dont we let the IRS monitor corporations? Every nickel in and out, the IRS could keep records. The IRS could monitor their bank records, and keep detailed information on their spending. They could keep detailed info on their earnings. Basically we should tell the IRS to monitor every cent corporations and the wealthy earn and spend. Remember republicans, if you dont have anything to hide, then what is the problem letting the IRS monitor you at every turn. If you have a problem with them monitoring you, then you must have something to hide, which is all the more reason to monitor you. Those who sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither. Perhaps if you were to post some facts, we could discuss this rationally. First, you dont know anything about the NSA program. Second, there has been no legal challenge to the program. Third, there has been detailed legal explanations of the program from the CRS and the Attorney General, which includes court rulings in the Presidents favor, and congressional oversight. Given all that you have no factual basis your your explanation that anything wrong is being done. Rather you are attempting to prohibit the President from protecting the country in a way that he deems neccesary, all for the sake of partisanship.
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