[melissa]

Americans who first came here, did the dirty jobs. I don't think they got off the docks and into jobs in investing, consulting, teaching, science, engineering or whatnot. Immigrants come in on the ground level doing the shit jobs. That's generally the way it is with immigrants throughout world history. The Germans and French did not let the Turks in so that they could train them to be engineers and scientists. They came to do manual labor. Whether that be in a factory or something "beneath" I don't know.

I do have a bias here. I welcome more of my dark-skinned brothers. I don't enjoy being a minority and I would appreciate some more company.

Also, I think it is unfair how all the white people got to immigrate but not these guys.

OTOH I do recognize that times have changed a bit and there are now health costs and social security. Also there is the issue of capital flight away from the US, thus removing our historical necessity for immigrants which made them desirable to US citizens.

I would really need to do more study on the US, and the history of its immigration policies to form a better opinion.

Well, I'm no help on this discussion. It's too complicated for me to form one position. :P