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**ggdfgtdfffhfyj** · 02-02-2006, 12:25 AM

Although they may be better off, allowing them to reside and work here as an underclass is hardly the American dream or what America is supposed to stand for. What they get is a cheesy version of it. When my relatives immigrated here from Scotland, Germany, and Sicily they became Americans. If we cannot make those coming in from Mexico citizens then we should not admit them at all. Allowing them in to change our kids diapers ,dig our ditches, and pick our crops (all the while fearing deportation) is not what any American would wish upon themselves.

Wait, wait, "If we make it retardedly difficult to enter the country with our immigration policies and the people of Mexico, desperate to get out of their crap country, cross the border anyway, obviously the problem is...with them."

Hey guess what? The 'underclass' doesn't stay that way for long. America is great because only a tiny percentage of the people in the so-called "underclass" stay there for more than a...I think it was 5 year period. We're a very upwardly mobile society. And, as I lived in majority-hispanic neighborhoods, with quite a few illegals, I can assure you that none of them planned - or were going to - stay as the "underclass" for very long.

The fact is, the problem lies not in the Mexicans breaking the evil laws but in the existence of the laws themselves. Here's a fun fact: take a legal mexican immigrant, then take 100 natural-born US citizens. Odds are that man knows way more than 99 of those 100 about the USA.

Why? Because the law requires he answer a series of really irrelevant historical questions about the USA, among other things. Unless you know a great deal about the USA and wait in a really long line to get in, apparently, you're not "good enough" to be a US citizen.

Yet thousands - over 11,000, if the CIA world factbook is correct - of children are born here naturally every day who will grow up knowing next to nothing compared to the legal mexican citizen about their native country - yet, somehow, the mexican who knows little about America, other than it is the land of prosperity, that is the 'undesireable' that must be kept out of the country, even though immigrants average about a gain of 2,681 people a day.

The policy of restricting immigration in this manner is patently absurd and tinged with xenophobia, if not any specific racism. It is unsurprising that conservatives, who are tradition-worshippers, are wary of the change in ethnic makeup of the country, always as the sniveling, cowardly non-defenders of freedom are, thinking that the principles that made this country great will shatter with the slightest breeze of change, are against sane immigration laws - but it does not excuse their reprehensible stances.

Here's a little history for you: America was made by immigrants, and will continue to be made by them. If you truly wish to concern yourselves with people becoming American, you would do best to concentrate your efforts, rather than on the border, on the schools - where more than just the children of immigrants are being taught.

Regarding security, sane immigration laws would make it far easier to enforce border security. Instead of hundreds, even thousands of people coming across the border every day, one would have checkpoints where immigrants could legally enter after a quick background check and legal proof of their identity. Then, anyone who is crossing the actual border fence - and I think the number would be far, far fewer after that policy was instituted - can be assumed to be someone with bad intentions(tm).

There, Americanism protected, border security simplified, end of problems.

02-02-2006, 12:25 AM	#15
ggdfgtdfffhfyj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 501 Senior Member	Although they may be better off, allowing them to reside and work here as an underclass is hardly the American dream or what America is supposed to stand for. What they get is a cheesy version of it. When my relatives immigrated here from Scotland, Germany, and Sicily they became Americans. If we cannot make those coming in from Mexico citizens then we should not admit them at all. Allowing them in to change our kids diapers ,dig our ditches, and pick our crops (all the while fearing deportation) is not what any American would wish upon themselves. Wait, wait, "If we make it retardedly difficult to enter the country with our immigration policies and the people of Mexico, desperate to get out of their crap country, cross the border anyway, obviously the problem is...with them." Hey guess what? The 'underclass' doesn't stay that way for long. America is great because only a tiny percentage of the people in the so-called "underclass" stay there for more than a...I think it was 5 year period. We're a very upwardly mobile society. And, as I lived in majority-hispanic neighborhoods, with quite a few illegals, I can assure you that none of them planned - or were going to - stay as the "underclass" for very long. The fact is, the problem lies not in the Mexicans breaking the evil laws but in the existence of the laws themselves. Here's a fun fact: take a legal mexican immigrant, then take 100 natural-born US citizens. Odds are that man knows way more than 99 of those 100 about the USA. Why? Because the law requires he answer a series of really irrelevant historical questions about the USA, among other things. Unless you know a great deal about the USA and wait in a really long line to get in, apparently, you're not "good enough" to be a US citizen. Yet thousands - over 11,000, if the CIA world factbook is correct - of children are born here naturally every day who will grow up knowing next to nothing compared to the legal mexican citizen about their native country - yet, somehow, the mexican who knows little about America, other than it is the land of prosperity, that is the 'undesireable' that must be kept out of the country, even though immigrants average about a gain of 2,681 people a day. The policy of restricting immigration in this manner is patently absurd and tinged with xenophobia, if not any specific racism. It is unsurprising that conservatives, who are tradition-worshippers, are wary of the change in ethnic makeup of the country, always as the sniveling, cowardly non-defenders of freedom are, thinking that the principles that made this country great will shatter with the slightest breeze of change, are against sane immigration laws - but it does not excuse their reprehensible stances. Here's a little history for you: America was made by immigrants, and will continue to be made by them. If you truly wish to concern yourselves with people becoming American, you would do best to concentrate your efforts, rather than on the border, on the schools - where more than just the children of immigrants are being taught. Regarding security, sane immigration laws would make it far easier to enforce border security. Instead of hundreds, even thousands of people coming across the border every day, one would have checkpoints where immigrants could legally enter after a quick background check and legal proof of their identity. Then, anyone who is crossing the actual border fence - and I think the number would be far, far fewer after that policy was instituted - can be assumed to be someone with bad intentions(tm). There, Americanism protected, border security simplified, end of problems.
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