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**rionetrozasa** · 09-05-2007, 01:06 AM

U have a point there,but the majority of those people won't change opinion,
unless something drastic happens...

People don't bother with things like that, until it happens in their neighborhood
or to a close person.

.

I quite agree. It is a shame but that is how the world works. I read somewhere (cannot recall where now) that all the toxic fumes from all the cars in the wolrd contribute less to global warming than the industrial output of one African country (sorry I have since forgotten which country it was). The gist being that whilst we should endeavour to cut back as much as we can on all our waste/pollutants the effect will be as nothing compared to what Industry pumps out each day. The article noted that the whole of Africa creates less damage to the environment than the Industries of either China, India or the USA.

If we really wish to make an impact we need to make inroads into the damage caused by industry. Unfortunatley we like having electricity, and flying in planes and having a big Army/navy/airforce etc etc so I think we need to find better alternatives. Don't think may people would wish to revert to the Dark Ages.

Of course, we as individuals should all cut back on waste and do our bit.

On a similar front I saw something brilliant last week in our local supermarket. a rather elderly woman was at the check next to me and had decided to follow the governments initiative on trying to reduce excess packaging on produce. Before putting anything into her bags she removed ALL excess packaging at the checkout .So the multipacks of biscuits had all the outer cellophane discarded, as did the fruit/veg which had been put in bags - I am sure you get the picture. It was a wonderfully chaotic scene. The poor woman on the till just sat there in a kind of agreeable bemusement but the supervisor who came across was very peed off at the mess and said as much to the old woman. The reply she got was great - "well if you wish, I can leave and shop elsewhere. Of course you will have to bag all this back up again". The supervisor ( a very officious type of person) promptly left. Delightful.

By co-incidence, I just finished his book "A Short History Of Nearly Everything" on Friday, hence my head was fresh with the list.
So while I think the odds of us humans making it in the long run are pretty slim, I also think it'll be mostly to do with other factors rather than our own.

I forgot who wrote:
"This is the way the world ends, This is the way the world ends, This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper."

~anyone?

Read that book twice now. I still haven't got my head round the bit s about there being more than 5 dimensions to this world - if anyone has a link to something that explains all this would appreciate it.

Oh and my wife wrote that quote but you have got it slightly wrong it should be .." this is the way Lee ends, not with a bang but with a whimper"

09-05-2007, 01:06 AM	#29
rionetrozasa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 385 Senior Member	U have a point there,but the majority of those people won't change opinion, unless something drastic happens... People don't bother with things like that, until it happens in their neighborhood or to a close person. . I quite agree. It is a shame but that is how the world works. I read somewhere (cannot recall where now) that all the toxic fumes from all the cars in the wolrd contribute less to global warming than the industrial output of one African country (sorry I have since forgotten which country it was). The gist being that whilst we should endeavour to cut back as much as we can on all our waste/pollutants the effect will be as nothing compared to what Industry pumps out each day. The article noted that the whole of Africa creates less damage to the environment than the Industries of either China, India or the USA. If we really wish to make an impact we need to make inroads into the damage caused by industry. Unfortunatley we like having electricity, and flying in planes and having a big Army/navy/airforce etc etc so I think we need to find better alternatives. Don't think may people would wish to revert to the Dark Ages. Of course, we as individuals should all cut back on waste and do our bit. On a similar front I saw something brilliant last week in our local supermarket. a rather elderly woman was at the check next to me and had decided to follow the governments initiative on trying to reduce excess packaging on produce. Before putting anything into her bags she removed ALL excess packaging at the checkout .So the multipacks of biscuits had all the outer cellophane discarded, as did the fruit/veg which had been put in bags - I am sure you get the picture. It was a wonderfully chaotic scene. The poor woman on the till just sat there in a kind of agreeable bemusement but the supervisor who came across was very peed off at the mess and said as much to the old woman. The reply she got was great - "well if you wish, I can leave and shop elsewhere. Of course you will have to bag all this back up again". The supervisor ( a very officious type of person) promptly left. Delightful. By co-incidence, I just finished his book "A Short History Of Nearly Everything" on Friday, hence my head was fresh with the list. So while I think the odds of us humans making it in the long run are pretty slim, I also think it'll be mostly to do with other factors rather than our own. I forgot who wrote: "This is the way the world ends, This is the way the world ends, This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper." ~anyone? Read that book twice now. I still haven't got my head round the bit s about there being more than 5 dimensions to this world - if anyone has a link to something that explains all this would appreciate it. Oh and my wife wrote that quote but you have got it slightly wrong it should be .." this is the way Lee ends, not with a bang but with a whimper"
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