To those of you who didn't believe Owen is a 15 years old boy, well, he is. And I'm still alive after giving him a ride to my dojo. My sensei asked him to observed just for today and we'll get him started the week after because my sensei and a few of us are heading to the godo keiko at Kansas. So for now, that's all I can say. But besides that, I think he's a rather nice kid. I'll let you ladies & gents know how he does the week after. Have fun destroy the rest of the trolls Mugu