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**shieclulaweew** · 11-28-2005, 07:00 AM

yeah it seems assholish how you ASSumed that i came and tried to get ahead of them in line. they know who i am and they know i've been doing kendo and have been 3-dan longer than they have been. i've been going to that dojo for about 7 years now, and i ALWAYS ask the sensei personally if i can practice, and i ALWAYS thank the sensei after practice. it's kinda obvious that the sensei and i have an UNDERSTANDING. i know he'll let me practice, and i know that he knows that i'm thankful. but i guess you never heard of this saying in kendo: kendo wa rei ni hajimari soshite rei ni owaru. kendo begins with and ends with rei. or does your dojo not teach you this aspect of kendo? that's exactly what i do and alot of other kenshi out there as well. i've been going to this dojo ALOT longer than these other kenshi. so this is MY second dojo. i have alot of second dojo, but yet i always seem to greet the sensei before i start practice and personally thank the sensei after practice. and dr.hillsing, i think i should be fired up about this. you know why? these are supposedly 3-dan. shouldn't they at least personally thank the sensei, do keiko honorably, and be exceptionally respectful to the dojo, its kenshi, and the sensei? or does being 3-dan give you the right NOT to excercise these practices and allow you to line up in front of everyone? i don't want dojos to produce these buremono kenshi. these dojos should be teaching kendo etiquette and not just waza. oh, but i guess that would just be assholish right?

Max,

My goodness!!

Such a large ego... I expect better from a sandan. I've only been doing Kendo for 2 months, but I have a pretty good idea what is expected of someone of your rank. Trust me, my sensei would be most ashamed of you and your behavior. I feel ashamed for you myself. Have you no honor?

What it means to be sandan...

Being sandan means you must be humble and not wish to be at the head of the line. Being sandan means you put the younger Kenshi first before yourself. Being sandan means you do not boast. Being sandan means you understand that when you visit another dojo, no matter how long you've been visiting it, that you are not to be impolite and put yourself ahead of the students whose dojo it is in the first place. Being sandan means you follow the rules of the dojo you are visiting, no matter how well you are known there. Being sandan means that you don't get all mad and start swearing in posts when you don't get your way. Being sandan means that you don't try to beat down others in keiko. It's very rude. Not to mention dishonorable. You should not be proud of doing that. Being sandan means you don't say bad things about other Kenshi and call them names as you did in your first post. You should have grown out of that by now. Being sandan means the younger and less experienced Kenshi will look up to you. It is your responsibility to behave accordingly and act as a role model. In your posts you have not shown you are able to do this yet. Being sandan means you understand that there is no place for arrogance of any sort in the dojo or outside of the dojo. You have not proven you understand this yet.

Well, that's my list of what it means to me, to be a sandan. Please excuse me if you think I am impolite, but I think it had to be said. Gomen nasai. I wish you would please think about the things in my list. Thank you.

Kaoru

11-28-2005, 07:00 AM	#4
shieclulaweew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	yeah it seems assholish how you ASSumed that i came and tried to get ahead of them in line. they know who i am and they know i've been doing kendo and have been 3-dan longer than they have been. i've been going to that dojo for about 7 years now, and i ALWAYS ask the sensei personally if i can practice, and i ALWAYS thank the sensei after practice. it's kinda obvious that the sensei and i have an UNDERSTANDING. i know he'll let me practice, and i know that he knows that i'm thankful. but i guess you never heard of this saying in kendo: kendo wa rei ni hajimari soshite rei ni owaru. kendo begins with and ends with rei. or does your dojo not teach you this aspect of kendo? that's exactly what i do and alot of other kenshi out there as well. i've been going to this dojo ALOT longer than these other kenshi. so this is MY second dojo. i have alot of second dojo, but yet i always seem to greet the sensei before i start practice and personally thank the sensei after practice. and dr.hillsing, i think i should be fired up about this. you know why? these are supposedly 3-dan. shouldn't they at least personally thank the sensei, do keiko honorably, and be exceptionally respectful to the dojo, its kenshi, and the sensei? or does being 3-dan give you the right NOT to excercise these practices and allow you to line up in front of everyone? i don't want dojos to produce these buremono kenshi. these dojos should be teaching kendo etiquette and not just waza. oh, but i guess that would just be assholish right? Max, My goodness!! Such a large ego... I expect better from a sandan. I've only been doing Kendo for 2 months, but I have a pretty good idea what is expected of someone of your rank. Trust me, my sensei would be most ashamed of you and your behavior. I feel ashamed for you myself. Have you no honor? What it means to be sandan... Being sandan means you must be humble and not wish to be at the head of the line. Being sandan means you put the younger Kenshi first before yourself. Being sandan means you do not boast. Being sandan means you understand that when you visit another dojo, no matter how long you've been visiting it, that you are not to be impolite and put yourself ahead of the students whose dojo it is in the first place. Being sandan means you follow the rules of the dojo you are visiting, no matter how well you are known there. Being sandan means that you don't get all mad and start swearing in posts when you don't get your way. Being sandan means that you don't try to beat down others in keiko. It's very rude. Not to mention dishonorable. You should not be proud of doing that. Being sandan means you don't say bad things about other Kenshi and call them names as you did in your first post. You should have grown out of that by now. Being sandan means the younger and less experienced Kenshi will look up to you. It is your responsibility to behave accordingly and act as a role model. In your posts you have not shown you are able to do this yet. Being sandan means you understand that there is no place for arrogance of any sort in the dojo or outside of the dojo. You have not proven you understand this yet. Well, that's my list of what it means to me, to be a sandan. Please excuse me if you think I am impolite, but I think it had to be said. Gomen nasai. I wish you would please think about the things in my list. Thank you. Kaoru
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