[Opperioav]

Actually, i don't exactly agree with Richard. recently, Toda sensei came down to Melbourne and taugh us about Nito. He did mention that it is possible to gain a point using shoto. However, the situation has to be very unique (Daito must ensure that the opponent's daito was suppressed ...I think that is what he ment), before Shoto point is counted valid. Even this point, is also a debatable as well. Anyway, the conclusion is, it is possible to score the point with shoto, but not anyhow forget the daito and just fight with shoto ..........