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**trowUrillioth** · 12-19-2005, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Kendoka

Hi Innercent, we were at the same seminar !

Richard
I know !!! Richard, I know who you are, but not sure you know who I am :P haaha

Originally posted by Kendoka

Toda Sensei explained that it was possible to cut with the shoto (of course) as one would, if fighting with two swords. A tsuki with the shoto when in close is a joy to receive (!)

But, the original question was about scoring in shiai. He did emphasise that cuts made with the shoto would not be awarded a point in shiai.

Richard Toda sensei did highlight those point you have mentioned. Most of time, shoto are purely for defences, and for "freaking" the opponent out (eg. tsuki with a shoto, not a valid point but damn shocking for the oppponent's moral). But he did mentioned, if nito player uses his daito, somehow, pushed and surpprese the opponent's daito to the side (literately to the side), and hold it there, Shoto can score a point with it. But this is still under debate.

But look at the reality, how often do you think you can push and hold down opponent's shinai to the side with only one hand ? and then try to score a point with the other ?

12-19-2005, 07:00 AM	#7
trowUrillioth Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 671 Senior Member	Originally posted by Kendoka Hi Innercent, we were at the same seminar ! Richard I know !!! Richard, I know who you are, but not sure you know who I am :P haaha Originally posted by Kendoka Toda Sensei explained that it was possible to cut with the shoto (of course) as one would, if fighting with two swords. A tsuki with the shoto when in close is a joy to receive (!) But, the original question was about scoring in shiai. He did emphasise that cuts made with the shoto would not be awarded a point in shiai. Richard Toda sensei did highlight those point you have mentioned. Most of time, shoto are purely for defences, and for "freaking" the opponent out (eg. tsuki with a shoto, not a valid point but damn shocking for the oppponent's moral). But he did mentioned, if nito player uses his daito, somehow, pushed and surpprese the opponent's daito to the side (literately to the side), and hold it there, Shoto can score a point with it. But this is still under debate. But look at the reality, how often do you think you can push and hold down opponent's shinai to the side with only one hand ? and then try to score a point with the other ?
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