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**gardenerextraordinaire** · 10-10-2011, 05:41 PM

Shocking. Knew he was sick, but not that sick

One of the few people where adjectives like Visionary, Genius, Titan seem weak. He'll be remembered a century from now like Edison, Bell, or Tesla.

To compare Jobs to true innovators such as Edison, Bell or Tesla, surely must be a joke?

The reasons for the commercial success of Apple are the renovation and refinement of several established products, driven by design, interface and brand. Yet the responsibility for these elements originates not from Jobs, but the likes of Schiller, Ive, Forstall and Mansfield. Yet I would still struggle to compare any of these individuals to the likes of Tesla and other drivers of humanity. Steve Jobs was a shareholder and CEO of a corporate giant that produced highly desired consumer products with high margins.

What makes the situation more farcical is that the guy wasn't particularly nice. As already mentioned Jobs didn't believe in charity (he cancelled all donations when he returned to Apple), and it was only last month under the new CEO that Apple began a scheme to match employee charity donations.

Jobs even lied in court (claiming he was 'infertile') to avoid making contributions to the upbringing of his own daughter. You then have his erratic and juvenile people management skills and how he treated friends like Steve Wozniak.

Ultimately I think it’s a damning verdict on society and the dominance of consumerism if someone like Jobs can be held aloft by many. It’s interesting, because Professor Ralph Steinman who was also a fellow victim of pancreatic cancer, and passed away shortly before Jobs only received mention in the media because he died less than a week before he was due to receive his Nobel prize. Yet Professor Steinman’s work and discoveries within the field of the human immune system will have unparalleled benefits for untold number of people for decades, if not centuries to come.

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gardenerextraordinaire Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 709 Senior Member	Shocking. Knew he was sick, but not that sick One of the few people where adjectives like Visionary, Genius, Titan seem weak. He'll be remembered a century from now like Edison, Bell, or Tesla. To compare Jobs to true innovators such as Edison, Bell or Tesla, surely must be a joke? The reasons for the commercial success of Apple are the renovation and refinement of several established products, driven by design, interface and brand. Yet the responsibility for these elements originates not from Jobs, but the likes of Schiller, Ive, Forstall and Mansfield. Yet I would still struggle to compare any of these individuals to the likes of Tesla and other drivers of humanity. Steve Jobs was a shareholder and CEO of a corporate giant that produced highly desired consumer products with high margins. What makes the situation more farcical is that the guy wasn't particularly nice. As already mentioned Jobs didn't believe in charity (he cancelled all donations when he returned to Apple), and it was only last month under the new CEO that Apple began a scheme to match employee charity donations. Jobs even lied in court (claiming he was 'infertile') to avoid making contributions to the upbringing of his own daughter. You then have his erratic and juvenile people management skills and how he treated friends like Steve Wozniak. Ultimately I think it’s a damning verdict on society and the dominance of consumerism if someone like Jobs can be held aloft by many. It’s interesting, because Professor Ralph Steinman who was also a fellow victim of pancreatic cancer, and passed away shortly before Jobs only received mention in the media because he died less than a week before he was due to receive his Nobel prize. Yet Professor Steinman’s work and discoveries within the field of the human immune system will have unparalleled benefits for untold number of people for decades, if not centuries to come.
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