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**emingeRek** · 01-17-2008, 02:27 AM

I wasn't ranting at you so I don't see why you need to rant at me...

If you understood my post (

), you'd see I accepted there was a real lack of planning and decisions made after the war against Hussein had been won. You'd also see I said it is wrong that Britain is retreating from Iraq. It is technically a democracy but despite the relative stability in the areas Britain controlled they are effectively controlled by militias which have complete contempt for democracy. I actually said the Americans are doing a much better job than the British at the moment...

I really don't like what you're getting at in your last statement. Should we have said that to Germany or Japan after WW2 - you don't understand democracy and you've never had it, so it's too much of a risk to give it to you... Should America not have bothered with the Constitution because there was no real tradition of democracy? Eastern Europe has had little experience of democracy but the countries of the EU-27 are just as democratic as America's first modern democracy.

I don't think what you said can be reconciled with a belief in democracy. Surely support for democracy is rooted in the concept that is universal, a human right by virtue of our common humanity?

What do you believe Blair's motivations were?

01-17-2008, 02:27 AM	#27
emingeRek Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 401 Senior Member	I wasn't ranting at you so I don't see why you need to rant at me... If you understood my post (), you'd see I accepted there was a real lack of planning and decisions made after the war against Hussein had been won. You'd also see I said it is wrong that Britain is retreating from Iraq. It is technically a democracy but despite the relative stability in the areas Britain controlled they are effectively controlled by militias which have complete contempt for democracy. I actually said the Americans are doing a much better job than the British at the moment... I really don't like what you're getting at in your last statement. Should we have said that to Germany or Japan after WW2 - you don't understand democracy and you've never had it, so it's too much of a risk to give it to you... Should America not have bothered with the Constitution because there was no real tradition of democracy? Eastern Europe has had little experience of democracy but the countries of the EU-27 are just as democratic as America's first modern democracy. I don't think what you said can be reconciled with a belief in democracy. Surely support for democracy is rooted in the concept that is universal, a human right by virtue of our common humanity? What do you believe Blair's motivations were?
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