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**Cxcvvfbgtr** · 01-02-2010, 03:21 PM

I went to wiki and the number of Blacks you cited is fiction.

According to the Office for National Statistics, based on 2006 estimates, 69.4 per cent of the 7.5 million inhabitants of London were White, with 58 per cent White British, 2.5 per cent White Irish and 8.9 per cent classified as Other White. Some 13.1 per cent are of South Asian descent, with Indians making up 6.5 per cent of London's population, followed by Bangladeshis and Pakistanis at 2.3 per cent each. 2 per cent are categorised as "Other Asian". 10.7 per cent of London's population are Black, with around 5.5 per cent being Black African, 4.3 per cent as Black Caribbean and 0.7 per cent as "Other Black". 3.5 per cent of Londoners are of mixed race; 1.5 per cent are Chinese; and 1.9 per cent belong to another ethnic group.

Why is it so common for Europeans to brag about being as multicultural as the USA (or more, LOL), and then turn around and throw a zinger, like worrying their Cathedral's bell tower will be shorter than the minaret of a mosque?

^ I see your point but those stats have been innaccurately mixed in with the last official census, in 2001, which was not only laughably undercounted (they 'lost' over 1 million people), but also severely out-of-date - having since missed out on the country's three biggest ever waves of immigration. Before 2001 London never lauded itself as the world's most cosmopolitan city, after the migration waves many people started saying so.

Basically the waves were from:

1. the EU (and EU expansion), which is not counted in a census (or at immigration control) due to the laws of citizen's right of work and abode anywhere in the EU. These are mainly Western and Central Europeans.
2. Africa: The Black population has more than doubled within a few years, replacing the historic Caribbean community, and are mostly from West and East Africa.
3. Latin America - completely unprecedented, hundreds of thousands of Brazilians, Colombians, Peruvians and Argentines.

So back on the Black population subject, also on wikipedia you can see updated data will contradict the census stats in the same article. Bear in mind London boroughs account for 7.5 million in population, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London:

"The Ghanaian High Commission in the UK believes around 850,000 Ghanaians live in London"

"According to the 2001 census over 80,000 Londoners were born in Jamaica, although the majority of London's 2006 400,000+ Afro-Caribbean population classify as being of Jamaican origin." (note the big discrepancy in numbers between 2001 and 2006).

" It is estimated that between 610,000 and an astonishing 2,300,000 Nigerians live in London".

^Add just those three communities together, and if the Nigerian estimate is right (I would say it's in between the two, but I have to say there are a damn big number of Nigerians here), that would account for 3.55 million, or 47% of the London boroughs' population. And that doesn't even take into account the rest of the major Caribbean, Somali, Ethiopian, Kenyan or Sierra Leone populations that number in their hundreds of thousands.

IMO I reckon the amount of Nigerians to be well over 1 million, and more near the 2 million mark - theyre definitely the city's largest community, and bear in mind it's been 4 years since 2006 and the African wave is still going strong (in the 5 years since 2001 count the Nigerians went from something like 30,000 to the smallest estimate of 610,000). I would add another 1.5 million+? for the rest of the Black population.

01-02-2010, 03:21 PM	#13
Cxcvvfbgtr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 361 Senior Member	I went to wiki and the number of Blacks you cited is fiction. According to the Office for National Statistics, based on 2006 estimates, 69.4 per cent of the 7.5 million inhabitants of London were White, with 58 per cent White British, 2.5 per cent White Irish and 8.9 per cent classified as Other White. Some 13.1 per cent are of South Asian descent, with Indians making up 6.5 per cent of London's population, followed by Bangladeshis and Pakistanis at 2.3 per cent each. 2 per cent are categorised as "Other Asian". 10.7 per cent of London's population are Black, with around 5.5 per cent being Black African, 4.3 per cent as Black Caribbean and 0.7 per cent as "Other Black". 3.5 per cent of Londoners are of mixed race; 1.5 per cent are Chinese; and 1.9 per cent belong to another ethnic group. Why is it so common for Europeans to brag about being as multicultural as the USA (or more, LOL), and then turn around and throw a zinger, like worrying their Cathedral's bell tower will be shorter than the minaret of a mosque? ^ I see your point but those stats have been innaccurately mixed in with the last official census, in 2001, which was not only laughably undercounted (they 'lost' over 1 million people), but also severely out-of-date - having since missed out on the country's three biggest ever waves of immigration. Before 2001 London never lauded itself as the world's most cosmopolitan city, after the migration waves many people started saying so. Basically the waves were from: 1. the EU (and EU expansion), which is not counted in a census (or at immigration control) due to the laws of citizen's right of work and abode anywhere in the EU. These are mainly Western and Central Europeans. 2. Africa: The Black population has more than doubled within a few years, replacing the historic Caribbean community, and are mostly from West and East Africa. 3. Latin America - completely unprecedented, hundreds of thousands of Brazilians, Colombians, Peruvians and Argentines. So back on the Black population subject, also on wikipedia you can see updated data will contradict the census stats in the same article. Bear in mind London boroughs account for 7.5 million in population, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London: "The Ghanaian High Commission in the UK believes around 850,000 Ghanaians live in London" "According to the 2001 census over 80,000 Londoners were born in Jamaica, although the majority of London's 2006 400,000+ Afro-Caribbean population classify as being of Jamaican origin." (note the big discrepancy in numbers between 2001 and 2006). " It is estimated that between 610,000 and an astonishing 2,300,000 Nigerians live in London". ^Add just those three communities together, and if the Nigerian estimate is right (I would say it's in between the two, but I have to say there are a damn big number of Nigerians here), that would account for 3.55 million, or 47% of the London boroughs' population. And that doesn't even take into account the rest of the major Caribbean, Somali, Ethiopian, Kenyan or Sierra Leone populations that number in their hundreds of thousands. IMO I reckon the amount of Nigerians to be well over 1 million, and more near the 2 million mark - theyre definitely the city's largest community, and bear in mind it's been 4 years since 2006 and the African wave is still going strong (in the 5 years since 2001 count the Nigerians went from something like 30,000 to the smallest estimate of 610,000). I would add another 1.5 million+? for the rest of the Black population.
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