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**Aaron757** · 08-10-2009, 09:34 PM

Tough decisions. But the thing that makes it even tougher is that doing nothing is not an option. Feeling bad about a persons situation and trying to help is one thing, but a bunch of stinky (to put it nicely) unwashed, drunken or otherwise individuals camping out in a park, or sleeping on a subway train does nothing for the people and buisnesses trying to work in the area.

I know, that can be read so many ways. It can be read as me being a heartless individual wanting to push these people onto someone elses front lawn, but that is not it. When you have an individual that reeks of vomit, body stank and human feces riding the train with you, it makes for a very unpleasant, and possibly unsanitary experience. It also does not attract people to live, shop or otherwise conduct buisness in or around areas that have these people.

So what is the solution? Hide them? Put them in "storage"? Possibly, but I think tehre needs to be a way to seperate the wheat from the chaff. Some of these guys that are genuinely struck by bad times and cannot bathe for mere lack of services available NEED US TO DO MORE.

We also need a few more "tough love" establishments to try and get the borderline cases back on track so they can not only be more productive, but maybe ENJOY their own lives for a change.

As for the rest? The best we can do is to keep them clean and safe. Try to make sure they are not the harborers of the next mutation of the Avian Flu. That they are not the human storage vessels for diseases like AIDS. That they do not pose a threat to themselves or the people around them.

But how do you do THAT when most that are that far gone don't WANT any help?

Having a town wine-o is one thing, but in a town this big, you simply do not have enough streetspace for them (and they stop being such a "quaint" reminder of our own stations in life as portrayed in the old 1950's era depicitions of such characters....). So what kind of program could you enact that would work to reduce the number, help those that WANT it, and protect the rest of us from those that really don't?

08-10-2009, 09:34 PM	#9
Aaron757 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	Tough decisions. But the thing that makes it even tougher is that doing nothing is not an option. Feeling bad about a persons situation and trying to help is one thing, but a bunch of stinky (to put it nicely) unwashed, drunken or otherwise individuals camping out in a park, or sleeping on a subway train does nothing for the people and buisnesses trying to work in the area. I know, that can be read so many ways. It can be read as me being a heartless individual wanting to push these people onto someone elses front lawn, but that is not it. When you have an individual that reeks of vomit, body stank and human feces riding the train with you, it makes for a very unpleasant, and possibly unsanitary experience. It also does not attract people to live, shop or otherwise conduct buisness in or around areas that have these people. So what is the solution? Hide them? Put them in "storage"? Possibly, but I think tehre needs to be a way to seperate the wheat from the chaff. Some of these guys that are genuinely struck by bad times and cannot bathe for mere lack of services available NEED US TO DO MORE. We also need a few more "tough love" establishments to try and get the borderline cases back on track so they can not only be more productive, but maybe ENJOY their own lives for a change. As for the rest? The best we can do is to keep them clean and safe. Try to make sure they are not the harborers of the next mutation of the Avian Flu. That they are not the human storage vessels for diseases like AIDS. That they do not pose a threat to themselves or the people around them. But how do you do THAT when most that are that far gone don't WANT any help? Having a town wine-o is one thing, but in a town this big, you simply do not have enough streetspace for them (and they stop being such a "quaint" reminder of our own stations in life as portrayed in the old 1950's era depicitions of such characters....). So what kind of program could you enact that would work to reduce the number, help those that WANT it, and protect the rest of us from those that really don't?
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