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**cepAceryTem** · 08-13-2008, 08:39 AM

I haven't heard that blanket dismissal of the entire ethos of limited government before... *yawn*

Speaking of authoritarians, what about Lincoln and his bloody war?
In 1831, long before the War between the States, South Carolina Senator John C. Calhoun said, "Stripped of all its covering, the naked question is, whether ours is a federal or consolidated government; a constitutional or absolute one; a government resting solidly on the basis of the sovereignty of the States, or on the unrestrained will of a majority; a form of government, as in all other unlimited ones, in which injustice, violence, and force must ultimately prevail." The War between the States answered that question and produced the foundation for the kind of government we have today: consolidated and absolute, based on the unrestrained will of the majority, with force, threats, and intimidation being the order of the day.

08-13-2008, 08:39 AM	#15
cepAceryTem Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 517 Senior Member	I haven't heard that blanket dismissal of the entire ethos of limited government before... yawn Speaking of authoritarians, what about Lincoln and his bloody war? In 1831, long before the War between the States, South Carolina Senator John C. Calhoun said, "Stripped of all its covering, the naked question is, whether ours is a federal or consolidated government; a constitutional or absolute one; a government resting solidly on the basis of the sovereignty of the States, or on the unrestrained will of a majority; a form of government, as in all other unlimited ones, in which injustice, violence, and force must ultimately prevail." The War between the States answered that question and produced the foundation for the kind of government we have today: consolidated and absolute, based on the unrestrained will of the majority, with force, threats, and intimidation being the order of the day.
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