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can't have a discussion with one who's ex cathedra. Papal infallibility? Please clarify.


Only Islamic countries I've been to are Egypt, Yemen, Iran, Lebanon, Turkey and Bosnia, though I guess that's over half the moderates. Surprised. Your absolute proclamations led me to believe otherwise. Some of your presentation seems almost, well, "ex cathedra ".
I've been to all the countries on your list, and you can add Morocco and Sudan. My experiences and/or observations were evidently different from yours.

The value, or nature, of Christianity in our modern society could also be debated.
Indeed it could, but not with an ideologue. Yeah, Christians are unable to get past their ideology. Jews too.

You'd need to have people making decisions about who is or isn't one of these. Wouldn't want to find you in this role. Or you, for that matter! Actually, you've inadvertantly substantiated the point I was making...who decides? That's the problem.

[You're a bit of an extremist yourself, you know (that's alright, don't change; you might give up too many good things about yourself at the same time!). I'm hardly an extremist, ablarc. The extremist proclamations and generalizations of other people (you in this case), however, tend to bring it out of the other side in response. Which, of course, is a phenomenon of the larger problem we're discussing.

Btw, if you want exposure to the opinions of liberal Islamic moderates, read the first post in this thread. Please explain what makes you think I didn't.