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**Agedprepdoock** · 09-25-2007, 01:00 PM

The great expansion within the UK Police forces is the recruitment of so-called Police Community Safety Officers (PCSO's), who receive minimum training (I think its 3 weeks), have no powers of arrest, can detain someone for only a maximum of 30 minutes, and are about as useful as a pork chop at a kosher restaurant! They don't even have to pass fitness tests, can enter with lower educational standards, and, here's the real issue, are paid well below what a normal proper cop gets.
Quite frankly they're a cop-out for the authorities, (if you'll excuse the unintended pun), its "policing" on the cheap.
As a Home Office report has said, "there is little evidence that PSCO's have had much impact on anti-social behaviour". I would add, "and crime prevention & detection."

Take a look at this recent example of their "professionalism"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...70&expand=true

I don't really want read Daily Mail rubbish, the police in England and Wales are 140,000 strong, which is an all time high. PCSO's aren't police officers, they are support officers and as such they are there to gather intelligence and become the eyes and ears of a community. A security guard doesn't have the same powers as a police officer, but companies employ them to help stop theft and other crimes. By the way PCSO's are quite popular among many of the communities they patrol.

People volunteer to be PCSO's and the pay is not bad, it's a lot more than security guards and shop security are often paid, and a lot more than Special Constables.

PCSO's and Special Constables may yet be merged in to a police reserve, which may be an improvement, and in terms of operational effectiveness I also support a Border Police Force. However it should be noted that while 40% of London's population is born abroad, so is 38% of New York's.

09-25-2007, 01:00 PM	#23
Agedprepdoock Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	The great expansion within the UK Police forces is the recruitment of so-called Police Community Safety Officers (PCSO's), who receive minimum training (I think its 3 weeks), have no powers of arrest, can detain someone for only a maximum of 30 minutes, and are about as useful as a pork chop at a kosher restaurant! They don't even have to pass fitness tests, can enter with lower educational standards, and, here's the real issue, are paid well below what a normal proper cop gets. Quite frankly they're a cop-out for the authorities, (if you'll excuse the unintended pun), its "policing" on the cheap. As a Home Office report has said, "there is little evidence that PSCO's have had much impact on anti-social behaviour". I would add, "and crime prevention & detection." Take a look at this recent example of their "professionalism" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...70&expand=true I don't really want read Daily Mail rubbish, the police in England and Wales are 140,000 strong, which is an all time high. PCSO's aren't police officers, they are support officers and as such they are there to gather intelligence and become the eyes and ears of a community. A security guard doesn't have the same powers as a police officer, but companies employ them to help stop theft and other crimes. By the way PCSO's are quite popular among many of the communities they patrol. People volunteer to be PCSO's and the pay is not bad, it's a lot more than security guards and shop security are often paid, and a lot more than Special Constables. PCSO's and Special Constables may yet be merged in to a police reserve, which may be an improvement, and in terms of operational effectiveness I also support a Border Police Force. However it should be noted that while 40% of London's population is born abroad, so is 38% of New York's.
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