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**BariGrootrego** · 11-02-2006, 06:12 PM

You're missing the point entirely nick, and I am very surprised that you can accept without question the imposition of a Police State in the UK equal to the surveillance that the Stasi had in East Germany under communism! It just proves how insidiously the governments propaganda works!

The main point I was making is that ALL this is being done WITHOUT any public debate! Parliament has never debated this.

I'd be interested to hear from our American friends how they'd react to all these state regulations.

A person in the UK was recently made into a criminal - what for? - for putting the wrong piece of rubbish in the wrong bin!
The same can happen for leaving your bin out on the wrong day, even in error.
The chip in the bin, secretly installed, was done so that eventually they would charge extra for bin collection - never mind the fact that we pay record levels of council tax already to have our bins emptied!

MI5 has almost instant records of people's travelling patterns in London, how they pay for the Oyster card, when they travel, where they travel to - of course this is all confirmed by CCTV as well.

Why should the State be allowed to hold DNA on everyone - the innocent and the guilty? Now they're suggesting taking DNA at birth!

Every email (including this one) and phone conversation is picked up and recorded by GCHQ & the US listening station in Yorkshire - why should the US have a base here listening to and recording our conversations and emails? Would the US allow the British government to set up such a facility on its soil - of course not!

11-02-2006, 06:12 PM	#14
BariGrootrego Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 500 Senior Member	You're missing the point entirely nick, and I am very surprised that you can accept without question the imposition of a Police State in the UK equal to the surveillance that the Stasi had in East Germany under communism! It just proves how insidiously the governments propaganda works! The main point I was making is that ALL this is being done WITHOUT any public debate! Parliament has never debated this. I'd be interested to hear from our American friends how they'd react to all these state regulations. A person in the UK was recently made into a criminal - what for? - for putting the wrong piece of rubbish in the wrong bin! The same can happen for leaving your bin out on the wrong day, even in error. The chip in the bin, secretly installed, was done so that eventually they would charge extra for bin collection - never mind the fact that we pay record levels of council tax already to have our bins emptied! MI5 has almost instant records of people's travelling patterns in London, how they pay for the Oyster card, when they travel, where they travel to - of course this is all confirmed by CCTV as well. Why should the State be allowed to hold DNA on everyone - the innocent and the guilty? Now they're suggesting taking DNA at birth! Every email (including this one) and phone conversation is picked up and recorded by GCHQ & the US listening station in Yorkshire - why should the US have a base here listening to and recording our conversations and emails? Would the US allow the British government to set up such a facility on its soil - of course not!
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