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Rather than ranting, shall we deal in facts? A survey by YouGov for the SNP found the majority of Scots are opposed to independence. In another recent YouGov poll, 69% of Scots were found to be in opposition to an independent Scotland. A January poll found that only 33% of Scots felt "the union is not worth maintaining".

http://www.independence1st.com/content/polls.shtml



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6185652.stm


Polls for you.


By accident, rather than design, we have created something special in the UK. England and Scotland feed of each other's talent and are both culturally stronger as a result. I accept the Union was created as a vaguely imperial construct. But in our post-imperial country, we have built one of the most tolerant and liberal states in the world. I feel more British than I do English; I think of Scots like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle as part of my country's shared heritage as much as I would Oscar Wilde.





Special to whom? Maybe to you not me. Culturally we are miles apart, for far too long has our children been spoon fed English/British history in schools that is now changing. The Union was formed on lies, bribes, deceit, threats etc etc etc it was in noway what the people wanted in Scotland. I am Scots never British it means nothing to me.



Scotland would automatically lose the huge influence it has as being part of the world's 5th richest country: gone the UN Security Council Membership, the head of the Commenwealth, the G8 - and indeed there is no certainty that England would stay in the prominent positions in holds in these institutions either. Look at the powers devolution has brought Scotland (which I believe should be extended) and with seven Scots in the British Cabinet, of which one is extremely likely to be the future PM, Scots are hardly maligned in the running of the UK.

Part of the 5th largest economy blah, blah, blah in which about 90% of the wealth is held within London. Why would we want to be on the security council or be part of the G8? How many countries that have gained their independence from the British Empire remain as part of the commonwealth, oh and why would we want to remain as part of it? I am a citizen of Scotland i do not believe in unelected heads of state. This, "and indeed there is no certainty that England would stay in the prominent positions it holds in these institutions either" i thought it was Britain not England that held these positions? Sorry i forgot you do not know the difference between British/English. Who are you to say what powers we should have or should not have, you worry about your own country. As for Gordon Brown i think the by-election in Dunfermline was a sign then in the Scots elections his home area was won by the SNP. No-one in Scotland cares a hoot for a sellout, authoritarian, control freak like Brown, hell bent on selling his own identity to appease the middle Englanders for personal gain.



Whilst I am no hawk, it is also worth remembering how weak the break-up would make England's Armed Forces. In pure pragmatic economics, independence would cost Scots £5000 in council tax on average. Scotland is a hugely successful country as part of Britain, with the best education in Europe and the highest rates of employment since records began.

England's Armed Forces? British/English one in the same?

Figures for this £5000 in council tax? Did you take them from the GERS report? I think you will find a much more complex and precise report claims we would be £7000 a head better off. Yes the highest record of employment that's classic, since when, Thatcher? We had no jobs under Thatcher now we have piss paying jobs under Blair and Co. How can Ireland, Norway, Iceland etc etc etc all be doing so much better than Scotland as small independent nations?




From what i read on here you are clueless to the facts on Scotland and the true feeling of its people. I really hate when a foreigner tells me how my country is thinking and doing all so well when they so obviously do not have a clue.