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**attractiveweb** · 12-05-2007, 02:23 PM

What a slur on the good name of the millions of decent law-abiding Irish-Americans - talk about a sweeping condemnation Nicky boy! Just because many Irish-Americans wanted to provide humanitarian support to those oppressed by British violence you think its perfectly acceptable to denigrate them in this wholesale fashion - typical! The British suspended the normal courts of law in Northern Ireland and dispensed with trial-by-jury in favour of trial-by-judge, with what became known as the infamous Diplock courts. Suspected members of the IRA could be interned without any form of trial, just on the word of a police officer! Their families would be left to fend for themselves not knowing when their husbands/fathers would come home!

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/north...843055,00.html

You state that "nobody in the Republic" wanted/supported the IRA campaign, this is incorrect. Sinn Fein/IRA won 5 seats, (previously they had only 1), in the Republic's 2002 General Election indicating increasing support.
The root cause for all the problems that have befallen Ireland lie with Britain for the way it has mistreated the country and its people over centuries. Britain should hang its head in shame at the terrible at the suffering and hardship it has caused to this small island.

A classic post of why drinking sea water is bad for forums! I never said anything of the sort, millions of Americans (with Irish ancestry) are perfectly fine law-abiding citizens, but with everything, there are also minorities who are anything but law-abiding, these same individuals should be extradited to the UK.

Humanitarian aid? I'm half Irish and Catholic...and even I know that is rubbish, I bet quite a few Muslims refer to it as 'humanitarian aid' when the money 'accidentally' turns up in the coffers of Hamas, al-Qaeda, etc...

The courts went both ways, as your article illustrates, one of the most notorious acts was committed by Loyalists on Catholics, you word your post as if it was a one way struggle, when clearly it wasn't. They were a necessary evil at a time when the area was engulfed in violence, it was that or enforcing a division with walls, eg Palestine. The right decision was made.

You don't keep up with Irish affairs do you? Sinn Féin lost a seat in the 30th (2007) Dáil elections, and while 4 seats might sound impressive, its around 2% of the entire chamber, meanwhile Sinn Féin has 1 seat (of a possible 60) in the Seanad. Also the reason why they went from 1-5-4 votes is nothing to do with the IRA (thats been a dead horse for 10 years now, the real issue was the Real IRA), but the socialist agenda that they espouse.

You don't read my posts, you don't even know what you're talking about and you're telling a country to hang its head in shame for the actions of some psychopath 400 years ago? Islamic fundamentalists use the exact same reasons for committing murder when they talk about the West and the Crusades. That doesn't resolve problems, it only shifts the blame and distorts solutions to making peace, its a core reason behind 11th September.

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attractiveweb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 372 Senior Member	What a slur on the good name of the millions of decent law-abiding Irish-Americans - talk about a sweeping condemnation Nicky boy! Just because many Irish-Americans wanted to provide humanitarian support to those oppressed by British violence you think its perfectly acceptable to denigrate them in this wholesale fashion - typical! The British suspended the normal courts of law in Northern Ireland and dispensed with trial-by-jury in favour of trial-by-judge, with what became known as the infamous Diplock courts. Suspected members of the IRA could be interned without any form of trial, just on the word of a police officer! Their families would be left to fend for themselves not knowing when their husbands/fathers would come home! http://politics.guardian.co.uk/north...843055,00.html You state that "nobody in the Republic" wanted/supported the IRA campaign, this is incorrect. Sinn Fein/IRA won 5 seats, (previously they had only 1), in the Republic's 2002 General Election indicating increasing support. The root cause for all the problems that have befallen Ireland lie with Britain for the way it has mistreated the country and its people over centuries. Britain should hang its head in shame at the terrible at the suffering and hardship it has caused to this small island. A classic post of why drinking sea water is bad for forums! I never said anything of the sort, millions of Americans (with Irish ancestry) are perfectly fine law-abiding citizens, but with everything, there are also minorities who are anything but law-abiding, these same individuals should be extradited to the UK. Humanitarian aid? I'm half Irish and Catholic...and even I know that is rubbish, I bet quite a few Muslims refer to it as 'humanitarian aid' when the money 'accidentally' turns up in the coffers of Hamas, al-Qaeda, etc... The courts went both ways, as your article illustrates, one of the most notorious acts was committed by Loyalists on Catholics, you word your post as if it was a one way struggle, when clearly it wasn't. They were a necessary evil at a time when the area was engulfed in violence, it was that or enforcing a division with walls, eg Palestine. The right decision was made. You don't keep up with Irish affairs do you? Sinn Féin lost a seat in the 30th (2007) Dáil elections, and while 4 seats might sound impressive, its around 2% of the entire chamber, meanwhile Sinn Féin has 1 seat (of a possible 60) in the Seanad. Also the reason why they went from 1-5-4 votes is nothing to do with the IRA (thats been a dead horse for 10 years now, the real issue was the Real IRA), but the socialist agenda that they espouse. You don't read my posts, you don't even know what you're talking about and you're telling a country to hang its head in shame for the actions of some psychopath 400 years ago? Islamic fundamentalists use the exact same reasons for committing murder when they talk about the West and the Crusades. That doesn't resolve problems, it only shifts the blame and distorts solutions to making peace, its a core reason behind 11th September.
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