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**Uvgsgssu** · 11-09-2007, 03:29 PM

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You could just as well say that in supporting the appeasement policy, Joe Kennedy was lobbying on the behalf of British PM Neville Chamberlain, not the Nazis.
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Joe Kennedy's views, while ultimately proven wrong, were not uncommon in the 1930s. But I don't know of any evidence that he had any sort of relationship with Nazi Germany, financial or otherwise.

Just because his love of fascism didn't get him the meeting with Hitler that he so craved, doesn't mean he didn't have a relationship. Joe Kennedy went beyond just neutral or sympathetic towards fascism - he was so convinced of the superiority of the fascist system that he would do anything to avoid conflict with them - and actively lobbied Roosevelt on that basis. At least poor Neville realized eventually that the UK had to make a stand - and did with Poland.

But Kennedy kept on telling everyone he could find _even after war had broken out_ - as a major public official of the US no less - that fascism was going to wipe the floor of democracy in open conflict (which would collapse into fascism itself, since fascism was clearly the superior model). And I doubt many other US officials were busy trying to cut a deal with Germany to get a separate peace for the US and the UK, and let Germany have the rest of Europe.

Bush might have financed the war machine - if politicians like Kennedy had his way, Hitler would've won WW2 without dropping a bomb or firing a shot.

11-09-2007, 03:29 PM	#14
Uvgsgssu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	^ You could just as well say that in supporting the appeasement policy, Joe Kennedy was lobbying on the behalf of British PM Neville Chamberlain, not the Nazis. ... Joe Kennedy's views, while ultimately proven wrong, were not uncommon in the 1930s. But I don't know of any evidence that he had any sort of relationship with Nazi Germany, financial or otherwise. Just because his love of fascism didn't get him the meeting with Hitler that he so craved, doesn't mean he didn't have a relationship. Joe Kennedy went beyond just neutral or sympathetic towards fascism - he was so convinced of the superiority of the fascist system that he would do anything to avoid conflict with them - and actively lobbied Roosevelt on that basis. At least poor Neville realized eventually that the UK had to make a stand - and did with Poland. But Kennedy kept on telling everyone he could find _even after war had broken out_ - as a major public official of the US no less - that fascism was going to wipe the floor of democracy in open conflict (which would collapse into fascism itself, since fascism was clearly the superior model). And I doubt many other US officials were busy trying to cut a deal with Germany to get a separate peace for the US and the UK, and let Germany have the rest of Europe. Bush might have financed the war machine - if politicians like Kennedy had his way, Hitler would've won WW2 without dropping a bomb or firing a shot.
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