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**Guloqkcm** · 05-28-2007, 05:36 PM

I never offered a solution; unlike you, I don't buy the argument that the solution is easy.

I already told you what the flaw is. I'm sure Sowell is aware of it too, although he omitted it from his analysis.

He wants you to regard these millions of illegal aliens as solitary individuals. In reality, many have developed complex social ties, with children who are citizens attending school.

Rounding up and incarcerating a small percentage as an example, thinking the rest would just pack up and leave is unrealistic. And if they did, you would still have broken families to contend with, children as you put it, "in the custody of the state." One wonders what sort of citizens they will become as adults.

This heavy-handed approach would further erode our standing as an enlightened democracy, making it difficult to impact world events - but somehow, I doubt you give a damn about that.

In which case, Edward's solution is the most practical: just shoot them all. I can live with dirty highways.

No one on this end said the solution was “easy “. Those are your words, Zippy, and those words are used by you to make an exaggeration and then attack the exaggeration ___ a very stupid and dishonorable debating trick.

Seems to me you are more concerned about “broken families” of illegal aliens which may be created by those who invade our borders, than the families of American Citizens who are suffering the effects of those who invade our borders and are bringing deadly commutable diseases into America.

The flaw you elude to is in fact not a “flaw‘, and that was established in a previous post of mine:

I would image children of those who commit a crime and are incarcerated, under existing case law, are either ordered by the court to be placed in the hands of relatives or taken into custody by the state. I would imagine a mother and father who cares about their children would quickly offer to the court the name of a relative in Mexico, or a close friend or relative who may be on America soil legally, and, who would take care of their children.

I don’t know how other people feel who object to the amnesty bill, but I have no objection to people coming to America to make their lives better ___ that is what America is all about, and that’s what my dad did! But he came here according to laws which were established to protect America from predictable and deadly consequences of an open border policy.

I wonder how many Americans have been infected this Memorial Day weekend with a commutable disease from those who have invaded our borders. This is the problem we face, and this is the problem which must be immediately addressed!

Since you care about THE CHILREN, Zippy, I wonder how many parents who are a citizen of the united States and have had their child infected with a commutable disease transmitted by someone who has crossed our borders illegally? Do you care about those children Zippy?

Finally, your comment about Edward's solution is adolescent to say the least.

JWK

05-28-2007, 05:36 PM	#28
Guloqkcm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	I never offered a solution; unlike you, I don't buy the argument that the solution is easy. I already told you what the flaw is. I'm sure Sowell is aware of it too, although he omitted it from his analysis. He wants you to regard these millions of illegal aliens as solitary individuals. In reality, many have developed complex social ties, with children who are citizens attending school. Rounding up and incarcerating a small percentage as an example, thinking the rest would just pack up and leave is unrealistic. And if they did, you would still have broken families to contend with, children as you put it, "in the custody of the state." One wonders what sort of citizens they will become as adults. This heavy-handed approach would further erode our standing as an enlightened democracy, making it difficult to impact world events - but somehow, I doubt you give a damn about that. In which case, Edward's solution is the most practical: just shoot them all. I can live with dirty highways. No one on this end said the solution was “easy “. Those are your words, Zippy, and those words are used by you to make an exaggeration and then attack the exaggeration ___ a very stupid and dishonorable debating trick. Seems to me you are more concerned about “broken families” of illegal aliens which may be created by those who invade our borders, than the families of American Citizens who are suffering the effects of those who invade our borders and are bringing deadly commutable diseases into America. The flaw you elude to is in fact not a “flaw‘, and that was established in a previous post of mine: I would image children of those who commit a crime and are incarcerated, under existing case law, are either ordered by the court to be placed in the hands of relatives or taken into custody by the state. I would imagine a mother and father who cares about their children would quickly offer to the court the name of a relative in Mexico, or a close friend or relative who may be on America soil legally, and, who would take care of their children. I don’t know how other people feel who object to the amnesty bill, but I have no objection to people coming to America to make their lives better ___ that is what America is all about, and that’s what my dad did! But he came here according to laws which were established to protect America from predictable and deadly consequences of an open border policy. I wonder how many Americans have been infected this Memorial Day weekend with a commutable disease from those who have invaded our borders. This is the problem we face, and this is the problem which must be immediately addressed! Since you care about THE CHILREN, Zippy, I wonder how many parents who are a citizen of the united States and have had their child infected with a commutable disease transmitted by someone who has crossed our borders illegally? Do you care about those children Zippy? Finally, your comment about Edward's solution is adolescent to say the least. JWK
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