i don't see the purpose in responding here anymore. the topic was supposed to be on the draft. it has gone too far off that topic. you have proved that it is yourself who is not here for discourse - you have proved it by going so far to try and prove me wrong, etc. Obviously we have different views, and perhaps when i hear certain radical views i respond rather LOUDLY but it is no reason to start complaining about my requests to be treated with some respect. So just for the sake of ending aggrevation, i won't post in this draft topic until it gets back on topic, and talks about the draft!