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**toopyimport** · 12-02-2011, 08:38 PM

Then it is no wonder you never got what you needed...classic case of "You're doing it WRONG!" If the NY ANG/ARNG was looking to resolve training and scheduling issues, they should have gone through the National Guard Bureau and/or their respective services NOT to the JCS...
What this REALLY means is that now the Army will have two generals on the JCS...

Actually, it could be two Army or two Air Force Generals on the JCS, since the National Guard is a composite of the Army and the Air Force. At the State Level, there is ONE Chief Of Staff on the Governor's Cabinet, and that job rotates between the senior Army Guard and Air Guard Generals - at least it does in New York. At the NGB Level, the job there also rotates between Air and Army Guards. However, the NGB has been more of an administrative Headquarters rather than an operational Headquarters, and has always been subordinate to the JCS, and the Guard has had to share allocations with the Reserve. As far as equipment was concerned, New York worked around both the NGB and the JCS by having the State purchase as many of the Major End Items as it could afford out of its own money, especially those that could be used for State Government use when the Guard didn't need them. This resulted in two things: New York had major end items that tended to be identical or near identical to those of the Regular Army, and Guard Personnel whose work schedules had sufficient free time, could earn additional Additional Drill Credits towards Retirement - and Drill Pay - operating that equipment supporting the State's Executive Departments. Incidentally, the Kuwait Invasion took place on August 2, 1990, my unit used the August Drill to make sure all Documentation was up to date, got State Active Duty Orders on August 22, 1990, its Deployment Orders on September 23, and flew out from McGuire AFB on November 8, 1990. The equipment that we didn't either take with us on the 747, or sent ahead with the Advanced Party via New York Air NG C-5B, was already at sea in Containers. The units from other States that didn't work the system deployed at a slower pace, and delayed in a lot of cases where they turned in obsolete equipment for current equipment. We stripped needed current equipment from other New York Units before we moved to Fort Dix, so that the only other equipment we needed to wait for was new Radios that had just entered the system, but was otherwise unavailable. If we didn't do what we did, we wouldn't have met the November 8 window.

12-02-2011, 08:38 PM	#4
toopyimport Join Date Oct 2005 Location Mauritius Posts 463 Senior Member	Then it is no wonder you never got what you needed...classic case of "You're doing it WRONG!" If the NY ANG/ARNG was looking to resolve training and scheduling issues, they should have gone through the National Guard Bureau and/or their respective services NOT to the JCS... What this REALLY means is that now the Army will have two generals on the JCS... Actually, it could be two Army or two Air Force Generals on the JCS, since the National Guard is a composite of the Army and the Air Force. At the State Level, there is ONE Chief Of Staff on the Governor's Cabinet, and that job rotates between the senior Army Guard and Air Guard Generals - at least it does in New York. At the NGB Level, the job there also rotates between Air and Army Guards. However, the NGB has been more of an administrative Headquarters rather than an operational Headquarters, and has always been subordinate to the JCS, and the Guard has had to share allocations with the Reserve. As far as equipment was concerned, New York worked around both the NGB and the JCS by having the State purchase as many of the Major End Items as it could afford out of its own money, especially those that could be used for State Government use when the Guard didn't need them. This resulted in two things: New York had major end items that tended to be identical or near identical to those of the Regular Army, and Guard Personnel whose work schedules had sufficient free time, could earn additional Additional Drill Credits towards Retirement - and Drill Pay - operating that equipment supporting the State's Executive Departments. Incidentally, the Kuwait Invasion took place on August 2, 1990, my unit used the August Drill to make sure all Documentation was up to date, got State Active Duty Orders on August 22, 1990, its Deployment Orders on September 23, and flew out from McGuire AFB on November 8, 1990. The equipment that we didn't either take with us on the 747, or sent ahead with the Advanced Party via New York Air NG C-5B, was already at sea in Containers. The units from other States that didn't work the system deployed at a slower pace, and delayed in a lot of cases where they turned in obsolete equipment for current equipment. We stripped needed current equipment from other New York Units before we moved to Fort Dix, so that the only other equipment we needed to wait for was new Radios that had just entered the system, but was otherwise unavailable. If we didn't do what we did, we wouldn't have met the November 8 window.
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