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**18holesin** · 11-30-2011, 01:43 PM

Well, the artilce you posted is a little misleading..imagine that. I completly agree with whatSenator Graham said on the house floor:

"We're fighting a war, not a crime," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, an Air Force Reserves military lawyer and key author of the nation's detainee treatment law. "Here's what we decided to do as a body today. America is part of the battlefield. We firmly believe the war is coming back home, so we're no longer going to have an absurd result that if we capture you overseas where you're planning attack on the United States, we can blow you up or put you in a military prison indefinitely. But if you make it to America, all of a sudden you get Miranda rights and you go to federal court. That's an absurd result; never been known in war before."

We are talking about terrorist...this is a war against the USA. Even if you choose to act like it isn't a war...it is.

It is a war against an "idea", not a specific person or country. What happens when Joe Biden keeps calling the TEA partiers "terrorists" and then some actually believe it? How about being assassinated for your speech, and no actions? If this is truely a war, why hasn't congress declared it a war then? How many years and many dollars are we going to spend on this "war on terror"? Is their minds, we are being the terrorist. If just calling it a "war" means we can suspend habius corpis, then what about the "war on drugs" or the "war on poverty". Again, your rights and freedoms are going to be gone, you are going to give them up in the name of security and you will have neither security or freedom. The road to ruin is laid with the bricks of good intentions.

11-30-2011, 01:43 PM	#5
18holesin Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 580 Senior Member	Well, the artilce you posted is a little misleading..imagine that. I completly agree with whatSenator Graham said on the house floor: "We're fighting a war, not a crime," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, an Air Force Reserves military lawyer and key author of the nation's detainee treatment law. "Here's what we decided to do as a body today. America is part of the battlefield. We firmly believe the war is coming back home, so we're no longer going to have an absurd result that if we capture you overseas where you're planning attack on the United States, we can blow you up or put you in a military prison indefinitely. But if you make it to America, all of a sudden you get Miranda rights and you go to federal court. That's an absurd result; never been known in war before." We are talking about terrorist...this is a war against the USA. Even if you choose to act like it isn't a war...it is. It is a war against an "idea", not a specific person or country. What happens when Joe Biden keeps calling the TEA partiers "terrorists" and then some actually believe it? How about being assassinated for your speech, and no actions? If this is truely a war, why hasn't congress declared it a war then? How many years and many dollars are we going to spend on this "war on terror"? Is their minds, we are being the terrorist. If just calling it a "war" means we can suspend habius corpis, then what about the "war on drugs" or the "war on poverty". Again, your rights and freedoms are going to be gone, you are going to give them up in the name of security and you will have neither security or freedom. The road to ruin is laid with the bricks of good intentions.
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