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**BloofPailafum** · 11-09-2011, 12:38 AM

Looks like you've trotted out a list of mostly imaginary or grossly simplified positions. But nonetheless...

Silly. No one is suggesting that we "break" the system. Everybody wants the system fixed. They just disagree on how exactly we should do that.

Wow, are you ready to be schooled?

No one is suggesting we "break" the system huh?
Wrong. Many Tea Party members are (rightly) worried about their Social Security and Medicare entitlements. SS is not a bailout like what the OWS people are looking for. They are looking for free healthcare, free college, etc. Do you not see the difference? SS is something everyone that has worked has paid into, free college to people that haven't done anything to deserve it is pointless.

Meaningless. Yes, it is pointless to say having a smaller government that can't pass out billions to their friends is meaningless. But hey, you only want to shrink businesses, not government.

-The Banks and the Rich shouldn't get our money. vs. the banks should get most or all of our money.

Fixed. Really? The TEA party was out there protesting because Bush started the bailouts. Are you just trolling, or seriously that ignorant?

Stupid. Always is to a person who believes in the system of economics that has sank all nations that try it and produces some of the worse dictators is history. What is 60 million lives in exchange for "equality for some"?

Depends how you define "government power". There is only one definition. It is more like how much power do you want to give the government. It is the reason why our constitution is a government limiter, not a freedom limiter.

The way the Christian right identifies with the rich is interesting.

Even when Herman Cain suggests we cut taxes for the rich and increase YOUR taxes, you still support it. Interesting that you have to call in your ridiculous moniker for the right.

The TEA party isn't calling for a tax cut for the rich, they are saying EVERYONE is taxed enough already. If the poor want to complain that someone else isn't taxed enough, why don't they forgow their tax return check or their EIC that isn't even money they paid into the system. And certainly if they survived all year long without that money, getting it back and then some, won't make them starve. It is amazing that the left is always quick to tell others to give up what they have, but lack the personal responsibility to alter their lifestyle to fit their income.

As for Cain, I don't support him. He is a crony. But lowering the taxes on the corporations is lowering the taxes on the those that buy stuff. When was the last time the sales tax wasn't added on to the price YOU paid at the store. That is what happens with corporations taxes, they up the price of goods they produce to pay for that tax. Amazing that the poor always votes to raise their own taxes cause some democrat portrayed large corporations as being the evil one.

The Constitution is a piece of paper written over 200 years ago. If replacing it is the solution to our economic problems then so be it. Yes, cause replacing the one document that has kept the largest amount of people free with liberty for over 200 years is the problem. The constitution limits the government for a reason, and when American realize that the government over reaching its bounds is the reason for the economic problems, NOT the constitution, there will be a changing of the guard for sure.

Oh no that's not a wild generalization at all. You are right, that is not a generalization, it is the truth. The TEA party was labeled with everything under the sun, without a single shred of proof. Yet you turn your head to the pictures, videos, and accounts of actual OWS protesters.

When you stop shoving your ideology down our throats, I'll start taking you guys seriously. Actually no, I do take you seriously, I take you as a serious threat to my civil liberties. Right, like what civil liberties are those? The liberty to push old women down stairs. The liberties to put your kids in harms way of a rally you plan to get out of control? Your liberties to attack cops and spit on them, and then complain when they take you to jail? What on earth liberties do you think the right is taking away from you?

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BloofPailafum Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 357 Senior Member	Looks like you've trotted out a list of mostly imaginary or grossly simplified positions. But nonetheless... Silly. No one is suggesting that we "break" the system. Everybody wants the system fixed. They just disagree on how exactly we should do that. Wow, are you ready to be schooled? No one is suggesting we "break" the system huh? Wrong. Many Tea Party members are (rightly) worried about their Social Security and Medicare entitlements. SS is not a bailout like what the OWS people are looking for. They are looking for free healthcare, free college, etc. Do you not see the difference? SS is something everyone that has worked has paid into, free college to people that haven't done anything to deserve it is pointless. Meaningless. Yes, it is pointless to say having a smaller government that can't pass out billions to their friends is meaningless. But hey, you only want to shrink businesses, not government. -The Banks and the Rich shouldn't get our money. vs. the banks should get most or all of our money. Fixed. Really? The TEA party was out there protesting because Bush started the bailouts. Are you just trolling, or seriously that ignorant? Stupid. Always is to a person who believes in the system of economics that has sank all nations that try it and produces some of the worse dictators is history. What is 60 million lives in exchange for "equality for some"? Depends how you define "government power". There is only one definition. It is more like how much power do you want to give the government. It is the reason why our constitution is a government limiter, not a freedom limiter. The way the Christian right identifies with the rich is interesting. Even when Herman Cain suggests we cut taxes for the rich and increase YOUR taxes, you still support it. Interesting that you have to call in your ridiculous moniker for the right. The TEA party isn't calling for a tax cut for the rich, they are saying EVERYONE is taxed enough already. If the poor want to complain that someone else isn't taxed enough, why don't they forgow their tax return check or their EIC that isn't even money they paid into the system. And certainly if they survived all year long without that money, getting it back and then some, won't make them starve. It is amazing that the left is always quick to tell others to give up what they have, but lack the personal responsibility to alter their lifestyle to fit their income. As for Cain, I don't support him. He is a crony. But lowering the taxes on the corporations is lowering the taxes on the those that buy stuff. When was the last time the sales tax wasn't added on to the price YOU paid at the store. That is what happens with corporations taxes, they up the price of goods they produce to pay for that tax. Amazing that the poor always votes to raise their own taxes cause some democrat portrayed large corporations as being the evil one. The Constitution is a piece of paper written over 200 years ago. If replacing it is the solution to our economic problems then so be it. Yes, cause replacing the one document that has kept the largest amount of people free with liberty for over 200 years is the problem. The constitution limits the government for a reason, and when American realize that the government over reaching its bounds is the reason for the economic problems, NOT the constitution, there will be a changing of the guard for sure. Oh no that's not a wild generalization at all. You are right, that is not a generalization, it is the truth. The TEA party was labeled with everything under the sun, without a single shred of proof. Yet you turn your head to the pictures, videos, and accounts of actual OWS protesters. When you stop shoving your ideology down our throats, I'll start taking you guys seriously. Actually no, I do take you seriously, I take you as a serious threat to my civil liberties. Right, like what civil liberties are those? The liberty to push old women down stairs. The liberties to put your kids in harms way of a rally you plan to get out of control? Your liberties to attack cops and spit on them, and then complain when they take you to jail? What on earth liberties do you think the right is taking away from you?
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