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**Phassetus** · 10-07-2011, 09:14 PM

Yeah, I get the whole court order thing....but, let's just "say" you believe in your heart that the best thing for your children is that you leave Kuwait, with them, and return to the United States.

However, the Kuwait court issues and order that you can not leave...or better yet, make is Saudi Arabia and your child is a girl. The marriage to the Saudi prince didn't work out...and now you wanna go back to the US with your child...I don't see that as a dirtbaggish move...doing what you feel is in the best interests of your children and yourself.

Well, then every divorce and every child custody hearing is child abuse.

I agree that it sucks...but doesn't amount to child abuse.

Emotional abuse is still abuse. In fact it's actually worse than physical abuse. And yeah I would say every custody hearing probably could be considered abuse on the child if the parents are putting them in the middle of it or pulling stunts.

First of all, I really don't see myself ever being in that situation. First off I wouldn't marry someone unless I knew I wanted to be with them. Second if I was in another country and I was ordered by that court not to leave the country, I would not leave the country until I had it sorted out by my country's and his legal precedence. If then I had to leave without my children, then fine but I would never steal them and then not allow the father to see them - unless there was abuse going on.

What I find a "dirtbag" move is that she defied the court order, she snuck off without telling him AND she's not finding a way for him to see his children for the last three years.

10-07-2011, 09:14 PM	#6
Phassetus Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	Yeah, I get the whole court order thing....but, let's just "say" you believe in your heart that the best thing for your children is that you leave Kuwait, with them, and return to the United States. However, the Kuwait court issues and order that you can not leave...or better yet, make is Saudi Arabia and your child is a girl. The marriage to the Saudi prince didn't work out...and now you wanna go back to the US with your child...I don't see that as a dirtbaggish move...doing what you feel is in the best interests of your children and yourself. Well, then every divorce and every child custody hearing is child abuse. I agree that it sucks...but doesn't amount to child abuse. Emotional abuse is still abuse. In fact it's actually worse than physical abuse. And yeah I would say every custody hearing probably could be considered abuse on the child if the parents are putting them in the middle of it or pulling stunts. First of all, I really don't see myself ever being in that situation. First off I wouldn't marry someone unless I knew I wanted to be with them. Second if I was in another country and I was ordered by that court not to leave the country, I would not leave the country until I had it sorted out by my country's and his legal precedence. If then I had to leave without my children, then fine but I would never steal them and then not allow the father to see them - unless there was abuse going on. What I find a "dirtbag" move is that she defied the court order, she snuck off without telling him AND she's not finding a way for him to see his children for the last three years.
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