hehe, yeah my post was designed to stir the pot and get a Moto Gp thread going. But my point about Stoner riding the wheels of the Duke and making it look good still stands. Rossi got a huge shock with how hard it is to ride the bike, no matter what you try and do to it. The key seems to be to run with less electronic aids, Stoner always rode with them turned down and provided some spectacular images.