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**Alexunda** · 02-03-2012, 02:03 PM

Seems a lot of heated comments here - many from a country where they've already given up a great deal of privacy and 'freedom' for security!

How many of you, when kids, were thinking of doing something you shouldn't but changed your mind when an adult let you know they were watching you? This is intended to provide a similar warning to those involved in street crime.

Moving street crime into other areas? Well that is a point, to a degree - a lot of the drug dealing and other crimes are purely local to the criminals - they haven't the means or desire (lazy s***s) to move far from their homes - so dealing would be moved indoors and 'anti-social' behaviour would be expected to be reduced.

As for CCTV footage not being accepted in court, that's more of a legislation problem and could also be attributed to not using high definition cameras - as the price of these comes down, I would expect them to be used more often.

The biggest problem, as some have already commented on, is the reduction of the Police on the ground - they won't care if they're being watched if there's not an officer to callar them before they leave the area and/or change their appearance? It also doesn't help stopping or catching criminals in the act - bit of a bummer if you're the victim of a sustained assault!

Lastly, I put a lot of the problems down to the courts - the criminals have little to fear when in many cases they'll just get an ASBO, fine and/or some sort of periodic detention or, if given a custodial sentence, it's going to be for a relatively short term with any sentences being concurrent - IMO, that last bit is damned stupid as the criminal is effectively given nothing for all the 'lesser' offences they may have committed- bring back consecutive sentencing and I guarantee a significant drop in offending!

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I've always thought it was strange they banned it in the US, I guess you guys just aren't trusted with the concept.

I expect it's more that the small toys inside are considered a choking hazard.

02-03-2012, 02:03 PM	#6
Alexunda Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	Seems a lot of heated comments here - many from a country where they've already given up a great deal of privacy and 'freedom' for security! How many of you, when kids, were thinking of doing something you shouldn't but changed your mind when an adult let you know they were watching you? This is intended to provide a similar warning to those involved in street crime. Moving street crime into other areas? Well that is a point, to a degree - a lot of the drug dealing and other crimes are purely local to the criminals - they haven't the means or desire (lazy s***s) to move far from their homes - so dealing would be moved indoors and 'anti-social' behaviour would be expected to be reduced. As for CCTV footage not being accepted in court, that's more of a legislation problem and could also be attributed to not using high definition cameras - as the price of these comes down, I would expect them to be used more often. The biggest problem, as some have already commented on, is the reduction of the Police on the ground - they won't care if they're being watched if there's not an officer to callar them before they leave the area and/or change their appearance? It also doesn't help stopping or catching criminals in the act - bit of a bummer if you're the victim of a sustained assault! Lastly, I put a lot of the problems down to the courts - the criminals have little to fear when in many cases they'll just get an ASBO, fine and/or some sort of periodic detention or, if given a custodial sentence, it's going to be for a relatively short term with any sentences being concurrent - IMO, that last bit is damned stupid as the criminal is effectively given nothing for all the 'lesser' offences they may have committed- bring back consecutive sentencing and I guarantee a significant drop in offending! --- Post Update --- I've always thought it was strange they banned it in the US, I guess you guys just aren't trusted with the concept. I expect it's more that the small toys inside are considered a choking hazard.
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