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**chipkluchi** · 05-02-2011, 05:43 AM

Dude. There are lots and lots of radio signals from space. Many occur naturally. And there is the prejudice of your argument.

I'm aware of all that and have taken it into consideration.

SETI doesn't apply the principles of intellegent design. It uses actual science. It doesn't say "Hey, there's a radio signal, it's a sign of Extraterrestrial Intellegence!"

You are showing your ignorance of what Intelligent Design proponents have actually written. More on that after I finish quoting you.

Instead, it looks for, and eliminates any other possible explaination. To date, despite finding thousands of promising signals, it has yet to find one that qualifies as being a sign of extraterrertrial intellegence. Not one. ID, on the other hand, makes an inferrence of a designer, but what testing does it do? Seriously, expalin the rigorous empirical process ID goes through to test any evidence it finds. How much, if any, of your evidence has been testing, found lacking and discarded over time. Real science finds its mistakes and corrects them all the time. Does ID? Cite some examples, please.

One of the foundational books for the Intelligent Design movement is "the Design Inference" by William Dembski (btw-published by Cambridge University Press and peer reviewed, probably published before the implications were apparent to the publishers). In it, Dembski describes the process for determining whether something is designed or not. Eliminating causes and chance, etc. are all part of that. In other words, exactly what you mentioned SETI is trying to do.

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chipkluchi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Dude. There are lots and lots of radio signals from space. Many occur naturally. And there is the prejudice of your argument. I'm aware of all that and have taken it into consideration. SETI doesn't apply the principles of intellegent design. It uses actual science. It doesn't say "Hey, there's a radio signal, it's a sign of Extraterrestrial Intellegence!" You are showing your ignorance of what Intelligent Design proponents have actually written. More on that after I finish quoting you. Instead, it looks for, and eliminates any other possible explaination. To date, despite finding thousands of promising signals, it has yet to find one that qualifies as being a sign of extraterrertrial intellegence. Not one. ID, on the other hand, makes an inferrence of a designer, but what testing does it do? Seriously, expalin the rigorous empirical process ID goes through to test any evidence it finds. How much, if any, of your evidence has been testing, found lacking and discarded over time. Real science finds its mistakes and corrects them all the time. Does ID? Cite some examples, please. One of the foundational books for the Intelligent Design movement is "the Design Inference" by William Dembski (btw-published by Cambridge University Press and peer reviewed, probably published before the implications were apparent to the publishers). In it, Dembski describes the process for determining whether something is designed or not. Eliminating causes and chance, etc. are all part of that. In other words, exactly what you mentioned SETI is trying to do.
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