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**andrekuper** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

If you claim to be a Muslim, whether shia or sunni, then why on Earth are you glorifying Kafrs that used to rule Persia before Islam. This is honestly ridiculous, its just a pathetic ploy some shias use b/c they disrespect the great Khalid ibn Walid, Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, Umar ibn Khattab RA, amongst others, who relieved Persia of its pathetic lifestyle and beliefs and brought them Islam despite being outnumbered 10:1 in the battlefield. But you wont see them saying the same things about Imam Ali, Al-Hussein, Al-Hasan RA who are also Arab.

That being said me as an Arab, believes that Arabs without deen are culturally some of the most misguided people. From our history till now its evident most pan-arabs and nationalist care very little of their deen and only about their country and go about life backbiting, fighting, "hustling" their governments etc.

When Tarik ibn Zayed was building his army to go to Al-Andalus he wanted mainly non Arabs only b/c those who converted to Islam rather than be born with it had much stronger Iman.

09-03-2012, 11:21 PM	#25
andrekuper Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 496 Senior Member	If you claim to be a Muslim, whether shia or sunni, then why on Earth are you glorifying Kafrs that used to rule Persia before Islam. This is honestly ridiculous, its just a pathetic ploy some shias use b/c they disrespect the great Khalid ibn Walid, Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas, Umar ibn Khattab RA, amongst others, who relieved Persia of its pathetic lifestyle and beliefs and brought them Islam despite being outnumbered 10:1 in the battlefield. But you wont see them saying the same things about Imam Ali, Al-Hussein, Al-Hasan RA who are also Arab. That being said me as an Arab, believes that Arabs without deen are culturally some of the most misguided people. From our history till now its evident most pan-arabs and nationalist care very little of their deen and only about their country and go about life backbiting, fighting, "hustling" their governments etc. When Tarik ibn Zayed was building his army to go to Al-Andalus he wanted mainly non Arabs only b/c those who converted to Islam rather than be born with it had much stronger Iman.
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