How do i know what that 70,000 of angels, moukilats and jinnat our in presence. Dua e saifi in the quran this was told by Angel jibreel A,S to prophet muhammad saw who shared with hazrat ali R,A. Which hazrat ali kept hidden to himself until one day a well known badshah had lost everything to his enemy and came to hazrat ali he wrote this 34 page dua for him and after reading the dua the badshah gained everything back he had lost and much more. I see if i can find the hadith verse etc for you to clarify yourself.