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**Lerpenoaneway** · 09-04-2012, 02:56 AM

Hey there brothers and sisters.
First Of All Eid Mubarak.

Ok now coming to the Topic.I Know this Area is Out of bounds for discussion as confirmed by a sahih hadith.
But i am not asking about the details.(so do bear me Mod bro)The Question is that i was reading an islamic history regarding sects and i came across an article that said that the

mu'tazilites were the propagators of free will.
and the Jabriyah were the propagators of predestination Hence determinists putting everything on the destiny.

However then rose a Man among the Mu'tazilites who negated their concept of freewill and took a middle path between the Mu'tazilites and Jabriyah or the jabrites.This man's name was Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari the founder of asharism

This is what i knew.But i came across a few articles that claimed that the people refuting the Mutazilites were Jabrites .And those Jabrites WERE Asharis. Is this True that ashari's WERE the Jabriyah ? Didn't they took the middle path between the two groups?
Any enlightening help on the issue would be appreciable.

09-04-2012, 02:56 AM	#1
Lerpenoaneway Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	Question Regarding Predestination Hey there brothers and sisters. First Of All Eid Mubarak. Ok now coming to the Topic.I Know this Area is Out of bounds for discussion as confirmed by a sahih hadith. But i am not asking about the details.(so do bear me Mod bro)The Question is that i was reading an islamic history regarding sects and i came across an article that said that the mu'tazilites were the propagators of free will. and the Jabriyah were the propagators of predestination Hence determinists putting everything on the destiny. However then rose a Man among the Mu'tazilites who negated their concept of freewill and took a middle path between the Mu'tazilites and Jabriyah or the jabrites.This man's name was Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari the founder of asharism This is what i knew.But i came across a few articles that claimed that the people refuting the Mutazilites were Jabrites .And those Jabrites WERE Asharis. Is this True that ashari's WERE the Jabriyah ? Didn't they took the middle path between the two groups? Any enlightening help on the issue would be appreciable.
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