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Old 09-10-2010, 07:32 AM   #25
r7rGOhvd

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It really depends on individual cases/scenarios. For myself, I felt a natural inclination to identify myself as black, since afterall I hailed from a Sub Saharan African country, and sort of stumbled on a situation where I was one of the few Somali/Horner kids in the neighborhood. I did get a bit of slight pranking/joshing by my fellow Somalis since I looked particularly pseudo-Sri Lankan...and I did have Tamils constantly come up to me speaking their languages at me. One of my other siblings experienced the same. Keep in mind, this was in a neighborhood with little Horner presence. I also recall occasions where black kids and white kids would debate on whether I was black or paki, lol.

When in my tweens, I moved to a community with a larger Somali community, I noticed that there seemed to have been an automatic and easy identification, even cops would be like "race: Somalian" when dealing with them. With the insular nature of Somalis, there was a tendency to label them as distinct. Ofcourse, Black was interchangeable, and many times I was referred to as Black. Growing up in the 90s, most Somali youth fell into two distinct lifestyles: 'inner city gangsta wannabes, and super duper islamic robe wearing, beard growing and religious.

Middle easterners here dont see Somalis as black from my experience, which is why I find EliasAlucard's descriptions completely out of place. White people (im assuming now) usually see Somalis as some kind of Islamic adhering people from Africa, who are negroid, but different from the traditional negroid, and definitely more alien and less auspicious.

When I went to the States, I noticed a distinct change, where African Americans almost ALWAYS saw me as Black, (even AfrAm) and would refer to me as 'my brutha' etc. While Whites were more along the lines of 'You're brown' or some kind of Muslim'' as if its an ethnic/racial group.

Most Somalis see themselves as Somalis first, Muslims second...case in point, when in university I was a member both of the Muslim Students Association and the Association of Black Students. In the MSA there were several other Somali students, in the Association of Black Students I believe I was the only one.
Man, not to pat myself on the back or nothing but I must say my perceptions are not too far off the mark.
Your commentary on white people is exactly what I'd expect based on my personal experiences. This type of commentary can only come from people who are highly perceptive and have first hand real life experience with different groups and the highly nuanced fluidity with which they perceive and label one another. Too bad we can't send out Slick Willy as an 'embedded' reporter among different groups so that you can come back and give us a report on how it really goes down IRL. This forum is full of theorist who like to argue their pov based on their own Ivory Tower racial/racialist/ethnocentric while living in some relatively isolated areas.
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