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**Cnbaapuy** · 09-21-2012, 11:24 PM

No worries. Yes, finally figured out I need to get rid of the link

It seems many here disregard Islamic finder for using correct methods, good thing because they had Fajr starting even EARLIER than the prayercalc website.

(I use the 18 degree timetable.) As for going out of the city to look for subh sadiq, it has been mentioned that as far as 5 miles out is a different subh sadiq is listed than the local masjid. So the times cannot apply EXACTLY to people living in the city as I understand it. this is just a small point though..

The idea is to confirm which calculation method is correct. So you would go out of the city and observe subh sadiq, and compare the times with the timetable for the area where you are observing. Then you will confirm the calculation method that you can then use in the city.

The link you provided (had some interesting details but) never disregarded the 15 degree viewpoint and actually mentioned a highly respected shaikh supporting it. 18 degrees seems to be the majority opinion but I do not believe that the 15 degree opinion is totally rejected. If someone did go out and look and supported the 18 view, then someone should say theat the 15 degree view is TOTALLY REJECTED to use for starting the fast. No ulama have done that yet , I understand. Actually, it mentioned that in actuality Hazrat did not use 15º for the beginning of the fast either. Rather he just used that for fajr as a result of extreme caution.

09-21-2012, 11:24 PM	#31
Cnbaapuy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	No worries. Yes, finally figured out I need to get rid of the link It seems many here disregard Islamic finder for using correct methods, good thing because they had Fajr starting even EARLIER than the prayercalc website. (I use the 18 degree timetable.) As for going out of the city to look for subh sadiq, it has been mentioned that as far as 5 miles out is a different subh sadiq is listed than the local masjid. So the times cannot apply EXACTLY to people living in the city as I understand it. this is just a small point though.. The idea is to confirm which calculation method is correct. So you would go out of the city and observe subh sadiq, and compare the times with the timetable for the area where you are observing. Then you will confirm the calculation method that you can then use in the city. The link you provided (had some interesting details but) never disregarded the 15 degree viewpoint and actually mentioned a highly respected shaikh supporting it. 18 degrees seems to be the majority opinion but I do not believe that the 15 degree opinion is totally rejected. If someone did go out and look and supported the 18 view, then someone should say theat the 15 degree view is TOTALLY REJECTED to use for starting the fast. No ulama have done that yet , I understand. Actually, it mentioned that in actuality Hazrat did not use 15º for the beginning of the fast either. Rather he just used that for fajr as a result of extreme caution.
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