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**Gooracouppy** · 06-25-2012, 02:30 AM

Oh I see. Well just because they didn't recognise their similarity to each other and relationship it doesn't mean we shoudn't.

For a book that goes the other way check out Barry Cunliffe's "the Ancient Celts". It actually upholds the traditional frame work for understanding "Celts".

There are some serious theoretical problems to understanding "Celto-ethnogenesis" though. For instance are we absolutely sure that Halstatt culture really was ethno-linguistically related to the people of NW Europe?

Also are we really sure that everyone of Iron age France was a type of "Celt", y'know similar to NW Europe ethno-linguistic identities. I don't believe Vercingetorix referred to himself as such and his people weren't necessarily referring to themselves as Gauls either.

Continental "Celtic" differs greatly from Insular Celtic.

I enjoy the problems of understanding "Our Ancestors the Gauls" (as Michael Dietler sarcastically put it) and I don't think the traditional frame work is 100% bogus but do enjoy playing devils advocate regarding "Celts".

06-25-2012, 02:30 AM	#12
Gooracouppy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Oh I see. Well just because they didn't recognise their similarity to each other and relationship it doesn't mean we shoudn't. For a book that goes the other way check out Barry Cunliffe's "the Ancient Celts". It actually upholds the traditional frame work for understanding "Celts". There are some serious theoretical problems to understanding "Celto-ethnogenesis" though. For instance are we absolutely sure that Halstatt culture really was ethno-linguistically related to the people of NW Europe? Also are we really sure that everyone of Iron age France was a type of "Celt", y'know similar to NW Europe ethno-linguistic identities. I don't believe Vercingetorix referred to himself as such and his people weren't necessarily referring to themselves as Gauls either. Continental "Celtic" differs greatly from Insular Celtic. I enjoy the problems of understanding "Our Ancestors the Gauls" (as Michael Dietler sarcastically put it) and I don't think the traditional frame work is 100% bogus but do enjoy playing devils advocate regarding "Celts".
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