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**Gremlinn** · 02-25-2011, 11:14 PM

Don't let them do it, Pekka.

Allowing yourself to be ripped off is not Zen, it is being a doormat. You also would not be doing the profession any favours by allowing the PM to advance his career based on a fraud.

Exactly! I've been trying the whole Zen thing lately, to be calm about everything and negative things happen, that's the way it is and now forward, if I let it hurt my mind I'm paying a price that is unnecessary. That is, I'm doing the damage to myself, while I could be Zen with it and feel good, live long and prosper.

But this is getting to be ridiculous. On the other hand, I've accepted worse crap while actually working at a University, then again, I swore I'd never let it happen to me, never ever again. And here we are again. I have this saying now "If it's a Uni thing, it's bound to fail". This refers to organizing skills, communication skills and overall competency of running things. This doesn't apply to everyone, but most. And the failures are just on a level that is even difficult to comprehend. Like are you ****ing serious?

I've let the PM know that this is unacceptable in addition to being unethical and highly disappointing. Unacceptable in terms of I will not agree to this even if you are going to do it. It's like being an author to a paper and then the co-author takes the paper, gives it to someone else and they get paid for it. I'm trying not to learn the lesson of doing things for free if you think it might work in the future. I'm trying not to become one of the "so how much will you pay me" as the first question having people. But it seems to me that I should not underestimate the awesome scale of failing outcomes that are possible. It doesn't matter if some of them are unethical or illegal, it just might happen and they'll just call it a day and leave you with a stick to beat yourself over about it.

I say to myself, "I'm not a doormat" but then I feel bad for them! Them being anyone in a similar situation. I wouldn't feel bad if they were just being criminal because of it, but if it's due to incompetency, I just go "OK too bad". I shouldn't do that. But I don't know how to fight back. It's easier with fists, and it's easier with my own business. With my own business I just say no and that's the end of it. Now? I don't know, I'm overwhelmed by the wtf of the situation.

02-25-2011, 11:14 PM	#2
Gremlinn Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 536 Senior Member	Don't let them do it, Pekka. Allowing yourself to be ripped off is not Zen, it is being a doormat. You also would not be doing the profession any favours by allowing the PM to advance his career based on a fraud. Exactly! I've been trying the whole Zen thing lately, to be calm about everything and negative things happen, that's the way it is and now forward, if I let it hurt my mind I'm paying a price that is unnecessary. That is, I'm doing the damage to myself, while I could be Zen with it and feel good, live long and prosper. But this is getting to be ridiculous. On the other hand, I've accepted worse crap while actually working at a University, then again, I swore I'd never let it happen to me, never ever again. And here we are again. I have this saying now "If it's a Uni thing, it's bound to fail". This refers to organizing skills, communication skills and overall competency of running things. This doesn't apply to everyone, but most. And the failures are just on a level that is even difficult to comprehend. Like are you ****ing serious? I've let the PM know that this is unacceptable in addition to being unethical and highly disappointing. Unacceptable in terms of I will not agree to this even if you are going to do it. It's like being an author to a paper and then the co-author takes the paper, gives it to someone else and they get paid for it. I'm trying not to learn the lesson of doing things for free if you think it might work in the future. I'm trying not to become one of the "so how much will you pay me" as the first question having people. But it seems to me that I should not underestimate the awesome scale of failing outcomes that are possible. It doesn't matter if some of them are unethical or illegal, it just might happen and they'll just call it a day and leave you with a stick to beat yourself over about it. I say to myself, "I'm not a doormat" but then I feel bad for them! Them being anyone in a similar situation. I wouldn't feel bad if they were just being criminal because of it, but if it's due to incompetency, I just go "OK too bad". I shouldn't do that. But I don't know how to fight back. It's easier with fists, and it's easier with my own business. With my own business I just say no and that's the end of it. Now? I don't know, I'm overwhelmed by the wtf of the situation.
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