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**Zjohkrbi** · 09-13-2011, 05:04 AM

His history shows otherwise. It's said that while he was young he wasn't really concerned about reform of South Africa and that he only later felt that a reform was needed. My mom told me she remembers his first speech when he became leader of the N.P, she says she can kind of remember him talking about a new democratic South Africa. I don't know, I admire him in a way, but then again you could also be right when you say maybe deep down he was hoping that by ending Apartheid the votes in the election would be in his favor. I do also admire him for what he has to say about the current ANC.

I think DeKlerk was seen as a right-winger because he came from a staunchly NP, and consequently staunchly pro-Apartheid, family. It could have been that he, no joke intended, was the black sheep of the family and truly did believe in the reform process. We'll probably never know.

Well to me the ANC = racist scum. But they will always have a lot of support, even Nelson Mandela still voted for them In a way I understand why he does cos it was the party that he fought alongside during Apartheid.[COLOR="Silver"]

Maybe Mandela deserves some respect for sticking to his ideals during what was, I'm sure, a Hellish 27 years in prison (although I believe he had a rather charmed life toward the end, with his own cottage on prison grounds IIRC). Other than that, I despise the man, he was a terrorist and still is a terrorist in my eyes.

09-13-2011, 05:04 AM	#37
Zjohkrbi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	His history shows otherwise. It's said that while he was young he wasn't really concerned about reform of South Africa and that he only later felt that a reform was needed. My mom told me she remembers his first speech when he became leader of the N.P, she says she can kind of remember him talking about a new democratic South Africa. I don't know, I admire him in a way, but then again you could also be right when you say maybe deep down he was hoping that by ending Apartheid the votes in the election would be in his favor. I do also admire him for what he has to say about the current ANC. I think DeKlerk was seen as a right-winger because he came from a staunchly NP, and consequently staunchly pro-Apartheid, family. It could have been that he, no joke intended, was the black sheep of the family and truly did believe in the reform process. We'll probably never know. Well to me the ANC = racist scum. But they will always have a lot of support, even Nelson Mandela still voted for them In a way I understand why he does cos it was the party that he fought alongside during Apartheid.[COLOR="Silver"] Maybe Mandela deserves some respect for sticking to his ideals during what was, I'm sure, a Hellish 27 years in prison (although I believe he had a rather charmed life toward the end, with his own cottage on prison grounds IIRC). Other than that, I despise the man, he was a terrorist and still is a terrorist in my eyes.
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